Off Topic (kind of) 30 cal for M1 Carbine

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  1. SBray

    SBray NRA & Second Amendment Life Member

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    I was considering buying a WW2 vintage M1 Carbine, and considering dealing with the 30 cal. ammo reloading aspect of such a gun. Anyone out there shoot these historical rifles, and if so, do you reload the ammo?

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
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    I have a Winchester model 94 carbine, saddle gun still with the saddle ring attached. From the serial number it was made in 1919, just as old as my mother is. I load my ammo for it, using the recommended load for the bullet weight and powder, 150 grain FMJTC, and 27 grains of Accurate 2015 powder. I get 2,154 ft./sec. muzzle velocity. It shoots well, pretty accurate for both of us being old timers. Just a bit hard on my old repaired shoulder.
     

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    My dad bought an m1 Carbine through the NRA in 1962 or 63. Army surplus. As I remember it was $16.00.
    It was made by Inland. Lots of fun to shoot.
    It should be very easy to reload for. Straight wall casing.
     
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    As you know, they've come up a bit in price, and lack of availability! A local store has an WW2 Inland, shooter condition, for $850! Is that inflation? I don't know if the Minister of Finance is going to sign off on this idea!
     
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    I've got a couple of carbines from when the CMP got the big batch of returns from Italy about 10 years ago. I reload for them. It's a relatively straight wall cartridge, but it still has to be treated as a rifle cartridge, which means you're likely to have to trim/chamfer/debur. I've also found that though not necessarily crimped, the Aguila ammo that I bought from the CMP and Aim Surplus has really tight/sharp edged primer pockets that benefit from treatment with the SuperSwage.

    The only bullets I've reloaded are Remington 110gr JSP. They cost about the same as FMJ, and I figured I'd rather have the jacketed base and bullets that might expand if shot into something other than paper.
     
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    I figured everyone ditched the old 30 carbine for the new one called 300 blackout...
     
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    Partizan 30 cal (Medium).jpg Partizan 30 cal soft point (Medium).jpg
    Having to go through all of those processes is one of my first concerns when reloading for that rifle. My next would be finding bulk ammo at a reasonable price. I found some made in Serbia that appear to be quality ammo. Here is two samples.
     
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    Given what you'll pay for factory, reloading is worth the effort.

    Also, in case prep, you can speed things up by using a 3-way trimmer.
     
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    Ya, as I remember I paid $10.00 and a knife for my 30-30in 1964.
     
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    I've got four of them that I reload for. In fact, one of them is in 5.7 Johnson -a necked down .30 carbine. :supergrin:

    wp
     
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    So, any pointers for reloading these type of cartridges? Sounds like you have quite a lot of experience having loaded for four of them!

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
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    Join the forums at the CMP ( forums.thecmp.com ); they have a lot of info and can answer any question you have. All of mine except the Johnson are from the CMP.

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    Great idea! Thanks!
     
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    There's not that much to it. W296/H110 is the most commonly used powder for them. 14-15gr for 110gr jacketed bullets, depending on what you and your carbines like. Sizing is simplified by the relatively straight walls...so think of it as pistol ammo you have to trim and lube (doesn't matter if your sizing die has carbide). It's one of the only cartridges I load that I don't even have a case gauge for. .38spl is the other.
     
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    I was hoping that was the case! Thanks
     
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    Well, I got the Inland 30 cal. carbine today. The serial number shows it was made in 1944. I'm looking forward to shooting it, and reloading the caliber!

    Thanks for the responses,
    Steve
     
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    They're often maligned for being inaccurate...but I've not really found that to be the case with mine. I do get much tighter groups from my loads than from factory (Aguila) ammo.
     
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    I've had several and kept the best 2, I love shooting them, but got a bunch of ammo with one of them and haven't had to load any yet. Get Larry Ruth's excellent book War Baby for an authoritative history on the great little carbine, informative and very interesting read.

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    I have two of these fine rifles. One is an Inland and I don't recall what brand the other one is.

    Very fun to shoot.

    Reloading is easy, you've got some great tips above.

    In the 1970's lots of cops carried a pistol grip version of these. Not sure why but we had them.

    I think Patricia Hearst used one when she robbed that bank when she was hanging out with those folks.

    Image from http://alumni.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/image/sla_AP740415046_6.jpg.