Obama Orders Rule Changes to Expand Overtime Pay

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  1. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Here is the text of the Presidential Memorandum.
    Note the part in bold, my emphasis. He is asking for proposals. There's no 'order' or 'mandate' as implied by the media.

    How will he enact those "rules changes"?
    Does anyone recall Bush using Executive Actions to adjust the Fair Labor Standards Act?
     
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    “Overtime is a pretty simple idea,” Mr. Obama said. “If you have to work more, you should get paid more.”

    With this logic, O should get no salary.
     

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    S***, he should have to pay his & Moochelle's vacation bills .... :steamed:

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    I would be happy to start getting overtime. I alternate between 40.5 hour weeks and 54 hour weeks (at the bare minimum). Unfortunately, I am salaried. And a soldier.
     
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    So ruleth the Tyrant. SJ 40
     
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    some of the perks salary employees receive at my company are:
    if you are running a bit late you are not docked pay
    you get an hour or so lunch paid
    if you need to leave for a bit during business hours you aren't penalized
    if you miss a day of work you still get paid but if you are gone more than one day then you have to take sick pay or vacation
    salary employees here don't generally have a supervisor cracking the whip on them
    IN RETURN: you are expected to stay slightly beyond 5pm if you are dealing with a customer ( which is rare)
     
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    When I worked hourly jobs back home in MI, state law said I got overtime if I worked more than 40hrs/week, IIRC.

    Are we arguing that this EO is a good thing or a bad thing?
     
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    They're going to go for mandatory overtime if you work more than an 8 hour day. Because that works so well in practice already. Count on it.

    ****ing idiots, they don't have anything better to worry about?
     
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    It's a bad thing, for a lot of reasons.

    The federal government should stay the hell out of private business and how they compensate their employees. If you're working overtime, not getting paid and don't like it, find another job. This regulation effectively treats all workers like they're in a union.

    I have worked way over 40 hours a week my entire 35 year career and never got paid overtime. I worked hard, got recognized for it and got raises and promotions. That's called "working your way up the ladder". Something Obama has no clue about, since he never spent a day working in private industry. Now think about a young aggressive, smart guy who wants to prove himself and put in some extra time and get something important done. Now, instead of getting a pat on the back and recognition for his hard work, the boss will tell him to be sure to go home at 5:00 sharp, because they can't pay him overtime.

    Working hard, taking risks, entrepreneurship - it's in our blood and what America has always stood for. Obama wants to kill industry and knock the U. S. down a few more rungs on the economic ladder. It's not surprising really, given his dismal record on the economy.
     
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    Well, being on salary now, I work 40+ more often than not and don't get paid any more for it, either.

    When I was working at the local grocery store back home and trying to pay for college, that little overtime bump helped out and, as such, I jumped at every hour they'd give me.
     
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    ....Riiiight.

    And people say the movie Soylent Green is fiction. :upeyes:
     
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    I remember Bush Admin officials allowing departments to turn Sgts into exempt employees. It was based on the fact they were doing more admin duties vs field supervision.
     
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    I'd love to see El Presidente run a real business.
     
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    Agreed.

    Start doing calculations of hours worked for lower enlisted and you can get down into some sweatshop wages too.
     
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    How many salaried workers are making less than minimum wage...?

    Edited to add "...?"
     
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    I have no idea. How many?
     
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    Wouldn't last long.
     
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    I don't necessarily disagree with your premise that this can be a bad thing for the economy, but let's forget about that and examine your argument.

    That's not an option for the majority of salaried employees. In my industry, I'm not aware of any competitor that pays their salaried employees for overtime. This happens all the time in the market place. It's unintentional collusion, basically. Effectively all companies employ the same standard leaving the worker with few options.

    Agreed, however, no matter how hard you work there can only been so many chiefs, and the rest are indians. More often than not those who make it to the top of an organization do so because of hard work + company politics. Anyone that has worked in a corporate environment know this. There are lots of hard workers at my organization, but less than a handful will ever reach the executive level.

    He's doing this because he is a liberal and genuinely feels it's the best thing for the American worker. He very well may be wrong, but to say that he's doing this because he wants to destroy America is ridiculous. It's folksy nonsense that makes conservatives sound like morons.
     
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    Gee, I left off the "?".

    Neither do I.
     
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    Let me know when you find out.