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Oakland Police raid "occupy" encampment.

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Meat-Hook, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Meat-Hook

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    Probably just did it so the next time they arrest a group of minorities they can point to this...
     
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    "Press guy" and "blogger". When will these dopes realize that simply having a camera doesn't make them the press?
     
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    Update: the videos I posted above I thought were from the action at 7am this morning.

    wrong.

    Im watching it on the news at the time of this post. It appears these protesters returned by the hundreds and that the street battles with the protesters have been going on most of the night. It looks like Oakland did a mutual-aid call out from agencies across the Bay Area.

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/29586433/detail.html

    Between 400 and 500 "Occupy Oakland" protesters began the march at around 5:20 p.m. at the main branch of the Oakland Public Library heading to Frank Ogawa Plaza with the aim of retaking the space they were evicted from early Tuesday morning.
     
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    Hum... Storm Troopers one and all "Sieg Heil!" and follow orders. No surprise. No surprise at all.
     
  8. cowboywannabe

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    One of the funny gags Bugs bunny did, was to hold up a picture of a screw, then a picture of a baseball.

    Wonder why I thought of that when I read the quoted post?

    You have a Right to Freedom of Speech.

    You don't have a Right to interfere with other people's freedom of movement, like the occupy protesters in Oakland did yesterday, when they started blocking the doors of office buildings.
     
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    "You don't have a Right to interfere with other people's freedom of movement, like the occupy protesters in Oakland did yesterday, when they started blocking the doors of office buildings." Hum... so you identify and arrest those who are blocking the doors of office buildings if that is actually against the law. Does that mean then that you arrest those who are not blocking the doors of those office buildings? Does that mean you confiscate and destroy private property (ala New Orleans with its confiscation of private firearms all in the name of "public safety?"). Wonder what threat computers, tents, etc. posed to public safety? Any explanation? Please do be specific as to what was the threat posed. Maybe cites some examples of how computers and tents have been weaponized and used to threaten anyone as a individual or a group.
     
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    Glad to see that Oakland has decided to take their city back, and to stop treating these dopes with kid gloves. I happened to come across these columns the other day in the news paper and cant help but love them. For your reading pleasure:

    and

     
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    Yeah, why don't you go to the beach, and find one particular grain of sand in amongst all the other sand. That is what you are asking.

    When a group of people get together, and start committing crimes, they are also known as a "mob" or "riotous gathering". Since the larger group's presence makes it impossible to identify those committing crimes, and/or will make it impossible for the police to approach those committing crimes, without surrounding the police trying to make an arrest, the group as a whole has to be "moved on".

    The police surely gave multiple orders to disperse. The cops on ADAM-12 in the 60's-70's had pretyped disperese orders that they would read when ordering a crowd to disperse. Surely, that happened, probably several times, before the police took any action.

    They were given fair warning, and decided the course of action they wanted to take.

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    It's also more than a little hypcritical for you, or the OWS protesters, to complain about not respecting private property rights, when the protesters are blocking access to other people's property, NOT RESPECTING THEIR RIGHTS, and "camping" on other people's property without permission.
     
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    I could have sworn this was Cop Talk! :whistling:
     
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    Brucev is the new resident sovereign citizen...
     
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    “Yeah, why don’t you go...” etc. Doubtless you are very familiar with whatever is the applicable law for that particular city. Your excuse of arresting any and everyone rather than the actual persons “blocking entrance” to a building is without merit. It is the same sort of excuse Bull O’Conner used. The only thing missing is the fire hoses, dogs, etc.

    As to hypocrisy, it is aptly demonstrated when those charged with upholding the law spring into action at the behest of those who own them and command their services, then proceed to call what they do upholding the law. And it is demonstrated when one excuses the theft and destruction of private property under color of law. Complaints as to public space being occupied are without merit. It is the same approach that has been repeatedly utilized to seek to silence political opposition to those who hold political power and those who pay for it.
     
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    Someone looking for this?
     
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    How did I miss someone getting sand in their vajayjay?

    Hey Bruce! Still mad at the world via Cop Talk?
     
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    I put Brucev on ignore, and I still get to read his posts, thanks guys.:upeyes:

    They should be able to protest, as long as they aren't camping on his front yard, destroying his property, and planting dog logs in his rose garden.
     
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    "...Still mad at the world...?" Odd. Don't recall being the one who was so "incensed."

    Public space is public space. It is for the use of the "public." Public space is not for the use of just certain members of the public, this to be determined by those who want to control access to public space. Nor is seeking to silence political/social speech to which one takes objection a legitimate rational for limiting or screening access to public space. The protesters were not standing in someone's front yard. They were in an area that by any definition was "public" space. The characterizations of the actions of the police officers and the descriptions of those who assume that they have the right to determine who will or will not have access to public space also stand.