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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Fiery Red XIII, Aug 2, 2011.
Is this the department that was just formed about 5-6 years ago?
My guess is you're thinking of the Miami Gardens PD...
Ah, yes.. I am.. Thanks
I'm wondering how they determined that the pot plants in the Mayor's yard didn't belong to the Mayor...
Investigation for allegedly odd behavior? WTF does that even mean?
This is a cautionary tale for those in small town law enforcement.
Maybe it was the cops. If so, problem solved.
But maybe it wasn't. If so, the city council is going to have a bit harder time getting rid of the Sheriff's Office.
Brother you said a mouthful. I retired from a 200 man agency a few years ago. I now work for a newly formed (less than 2 year old) Police Department that falls under the direction of the Port Authority. Oak Hill is just 30 or so miles North of us.
Our agency is 33 total sworn. We have the highest starting pay in the county plus an additional 1% for each year of prior police experience up to 10 years. The Port Authority pays 100% of the cops health, dental and vision insurance and includes a free membership at a fitness center with 4 locations within the county. The cost for dependent coverage is minimal. The cops contribute nothing to the retirement, the PA contributes 10.77% into a 401(A) that the employee manages. $100 per year boot allowance, $40 per month cell phone stipend. All of the equipment is brand new and top of the line.....despite this, some feel that we need a union to protect us......from what? There has been minimal discipline handed out in two years, nothing beyond a counseling...
We serve at the pleasure of the Port Commission.....my fear? A) A union will negotiate us right into a pay cut and benefit reduction. B) Will negotiate us right in to being disbanded and duties contracted back to the local Sheriffs Office, screwing up the best LEO gig in town.
Sorry, didn't intend to highjack the thread, just building on DaBigBR's statement.
Cape canaveral I assume. I'm local & fish out at jetty park at night (surf fishing sharks). Anyway, sounds like a good gig you have there.
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Our city is having outside experts come in and evaluate the entire city and its operation. The guy evaluating the PD sent out a questionaire asking amongst other things what we thought of consolidation of services.
I pretty much told him the city counsel would never reliquish political control to the sheriff. The first time a deputy told somebody important in town the wrong thing they would be on the phone asking for the deputy to dealt with. The sheriff would tell them to **** off because only the voters matter, not some runt of a mayor.
Now if we were acting like idiots or were going to save them huge amounts of money they might have to do it.
Except in PA where every department is small....
Yes it is. While I do not ordinarily support government sector unions, this is one case where one might have actually been useful.
In Indiana, you cannot dismiss a town marshal or merit police officer without recourse to a formal hearing/reading of charges/findings of violations by state law. I wonder why Florida doesn't have the same thing in effect?
Around here, corrupt town boards have more creative ways to run chiefs and marshals out of town on a pine rail.
I would argue that could be even worse. How many of the other small agencies that butt up to each other would gladly contract to cover a city dissolving their department?
yup the town will fold before the Sheriff goes away..at least in Florida
there is talk about consolidation.. and I have seen many a small town PA force dissolved and part timers used.
And next year the city council will get wiped clean by the voters...
No wonder they like Canaveral, Chief is a cop first type of guy. Glad you guys landed there and glad I work at a large SO.
Correct. They were starting cops at 75,000 a year also. I have a friend who retired from West Palm beach PD who's a Sgt, there now. Apparently, they're sure not hiring right now.
The Department I started out with (Lake Worth Police Dept.) was taken over by the Palm Beach County Sheriffs Office in January 2010.
I have a good friend who's now the Chief of Clermont PD (near Orlando), I'm wondering if that department will soon be taken over by the Orange County Sheriffs Office (might be Lake County SO?).
The trend for about the past 20 years in Palm Beach and Broward Counties is having the County Sheriffs Office take over their jurisdiction.
It's all about money and what a city can possibly save these days.