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I believe the judge is right. New York appears to have used basically the same definition as federal law, under which a shockwave is not a handgun, rifle or shotgun.

 

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I believe the judge is right. New York appears to have used basically the same definition as federal law, under which a shockwave is not a handgun, rifle or shotgun.


If they used the federal law it would be considered a firearm, just like the article the mentioned.
 

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This would also apply to the Remington TAC 14. However, the TAC 14 has a 6rnd magazine.
 

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There is also a law on the table where we cant buy any more than 20 rounds of ammo every 120 days, or you`ll be charged with a felony.

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20 rounds every 120 days? That’s worse than bans on certain guns or mags, IMO.
 

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If they used the federal law it would be considered a firearm, just like the article the mentioned.
You are correct, I didn't say that right, but he arrived at the decision that it is not a "firearm" under the state definition the same way ATF arrived at the decision that it was not anything but a "firearm" under federal law.

3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or (e)
an assault weapon. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the
barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the
distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or
breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the
overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance
between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to
the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique
firearm.

Then they defined shotgun pretty much the way the feds do.

Had he been in Kentucky, our definitions are much broader than the feds (for example, muzzleloaders and black powder guns can be "firearms " or "handguns") but, of course, it would have been perfectly legal in Kentucky and he could have walked into the state capitol with it in his hand.
 

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You are correct, I didn't say that right, but he arrived at the decision that it is not a "firearm" under the state definition the same way ATF arrived at the decision that it was not anything but a "firearm" under federal law.

3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having
one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle
having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d)
any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or
otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or (e)
an assault weapon. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the
barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the
distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or
breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the
overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance
between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to
the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique
firearm.

Then they defined shotgun pretty much the way the feds do.

Had he been in Kentucky, our definitions are much broader than the feds (for example, muzzleloaders and black powder guns can be "firearms " or "handguns") but, of course, it would have been perfectly legal in Kentucky and he could have walked into the state capitol with it in his hand.
It was explained to me that you cannot alter the shockwave or TAC 14 in any way or it will become illegal.
 

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It was explained to me that you cannot alter the shockwave or TAC 14 in any way or it will become illegal.

Well that's not true. You can however alter it to the point that it would be reclassified as something covered under the NFA however, just like everything else.
 
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It was explained to me that you cannot alter the shockwave or TAC 14 in any way or it will become illegal.
That is wrong, but probably a good rule to follow if you need to ask.
 
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