Was recently looking at a 3rd Gen 22 and 23 at the LGS, for a reasonable price. I ask for opinions (mostly for fun), and got two. Went back today to pick up the 22, and the person behind the counter just had to ask if I'd rather have a Gen 4. Seems she had one a customer traded in, and for $465 she'd let me take it home. I know you guys should have warned me off, but since you didn't, I find myself strapped with a terrible Gen 4 that is bound to throw brass at me, FTF, FTE, and will probably talk bad about me when my back's turned. So, tomorrow I'll have to take it to the range to suffer its abuse. Wish me luck. In all seriousness, this thing feels great. Can't wait to punch holes in some paper.