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No Wonder They Are Still On Strike

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Ruggles, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. Ruggles

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    at the Port of Los Angeles with a crappy offer like this.

    "A spokesman for the shipping lines and cargo terminals against which the clerks are striking said it had offered them "absolute job security," a raise that would take average annual pay to $195,000 from $165,000, 11 weeks of paid vacation and a generous pension increase, according to the Los Angeles Times."

    :rofl:

    And the unions wonders why they are less and less supported by the average America day after day.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/calif-port-strike-enters-day-4-cost-estimated-1bday-911362
     
  2. Scott3670

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    Holy crap, that's a lot of bucks. Not saying that they don't work hard, but why do they get paid so damn much? And 11 weeks of paid vacation? That's just too damn much.
     

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  4. Ruggles

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    Not complaining nor jealous just not sure why they are even thinking of/participating in a strike :dunno:

    Things like this are why unions which once had widespread public support no longer do IMO. Biggest union town (Detroit) in America is now a economic wasteland. For many reasons I am sure but the unions are big part of that without a doubt IMO.
     
  5. Dan_ntx

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    Never mind...enjoy the twinkles guys.
     
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  6. Jeff82

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    Hard job? They're clerks!
     
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    rhikdavis U.S. Veteran

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    I'm in the wrong biz.
     
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    Hey! Have YOU ever tried to get that damn ink from all the rubber stamps they are forced to use off your fingers at the end of the day?!? :wow:

    Tough work, but somebody has to do it. Bet they could be replaced with qualified people in about 1/2 an hour.:upeyes:
     
  9. CAcop

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    They are striking because they think they can. I suspect working without a contract that long has disgruntled a few.

    As far as Detroit, there are other issues at play too. Crime and white flight to the suburbs are at the top of the list.

    It sounds like the days are numbered for those workers anyway, union or not.
     
  10. Ruggles

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    With 11 weeks of vacation there must be a lot of people cross trained :0
     
  11. CAcop

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    I didn't read the contract. Did it mention if there was sick and/or holiday time in addition to vacation.

    I ask because some police departments around here just have time off and it is to be used for everything. Sick? Vacation day. Dentist? Vacation. Taking Christmas off? Vacation. Also is it use it or loose it? Or do they bank it? Cash out at the end of the year?

    Also they refer to days. What are their schedules? We work a 4/10 and we get an 8 hour day of sick time because every other city employee gets.
     
  12. podwich

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    11 weeks? Even if that includes sick time, how often do you become ill?
     
  13. cgwahl

    cgwahl Sheriffs a near

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    I haven't read the contract, but heard a guy on the radio talk about it. He is on the management side so it's up to you if you want to believe what he says.


    http://downloads.iheartradio.com/media/station_content/616/JK1130123P_1354329390_3475.mp3
    2:45 to 10:30 is where a lawyer on the management side talks about the benefit package.

    If everything he says is true, their package is beyond awesome.
     
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    Damn, $195k, 11 weeks of paid vacation, and a generous pension increase? And they turned it down? Why do they still have jobs to go back to after the strike is over? I bet there are plenty of people will to do the job for a lot less than that.
     
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    This.
    Holy crap.

    I'd be more than happy with $50k and 4 weeks paid vacation.
     
  16. czsmithGT

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    I skimmed the contract but I didn't see that. It may be buried in the 200 pages of language. I did see these:

    1.251 Clerk. An employee responsible for performing
    any or all of the following clerical functions related to receiving, delivering, checking, tallying, yard and/or cargo area inventorying (including containers), sorting, spotting and inspecting cargo and/or containers for the purpose of taking and recording exceptions, including the recording of necessary notations and the keeping of such records as may be required by the individual employer.

    4.11 The basic straight time hourly rate of pay for clerks
    shall be as follows:
    Effective 8:00 a.m., June 28, 2008 $31.18
    Effective 8:00 a.m., July 4, 2009 $31.68
    Effective 8:00 a.m., July 3, 2010 $32.68
    Effective 8:00 a.m., July 2, 2011 $33.68
    Effective 8:00 a.m., June 30, 2012 $34.68
    Effective 8:00 a.m., June 29, 2013 $35.68

    5.1 The following holidays shall be recognized: New Year’s
    Day, Martin Luther King’s Birthday, Lincoln’s Birthday, Washington’s Birthday, Cesar Chavez’ Birthday, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Bloody Thursday, Harry Bridges’ Birthday,
    Labor Day, Veterans’ Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Eve
    Day, Christmas Day, and New Year’s Eve Day.
     
  17. Ruggles

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    They should take the contract, sit down, shut up and thank the Lord for their blessing in life. Anything beyond that and they deserve a swift kick in the jewels :)
     
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    Hef Stop Obammunism

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    There is no clerical job that is worth $195,000 per year and 11 weeks vacation. Anyone who even asks for $100,000/yr or more for a forking clerical job should be pushed out the door by a boot to the spine.
     
  19. Ruggles

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    Those are some "laborish" holidays :rofl:
     
  20. czsmithGT

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    Yep. Harry Bridges was a Communist. Go figure LOL