No, this is not an “I told you so” thread....

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by First shot, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. Gundude

    Gundude

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    I know plenty of Trump-haters. Many of them actually aren't stupid. My mission between now and November is to subtly convert them with logic and reason without them even being aware that I'm doing it. :innocent: I don't own any red hats, so they'll have their guard down.
     
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  2. PhotoFeller

    PhotoFeller A swamp dude

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    If the prospect of any of the current Democrat candidates becoming President doesn’t scare Republicans and Independents into a mass turnout to vote for Trump, we are in deep trouble. Imagine Bernie delivering a State of the Union speech. Or Pocahontas, or Pete. Joe’s speech would put the country to sleep! Their candidates will help us prevail!

    I think our turnout will be record setting and Trump’s coattails will help regain the House and hold the Senate.
     
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  3. ModGlock17

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    Consider a little math here.

    In 2016, it was approx 50-50%, to make it simple.
    Now, if you'd turn one in ten persons to vote for Trump, assuming your friends are representative of the nation, then that's 5%.

    If we can turn 5%, that would be a 10% swing. We'd win.

    So cheer up, Vote, and turn 1 in 10 of people you know.




    Furthermore, if this 1 lives in either Ohio, FL, PA, WI, NV, NM, CO, MN, then we'd be in really good shape.
     
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  4. First shot

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    @Gundude ...It’s been the same process for me..It went from, “I don’t know for sure about Trump as President”, to “wow I never expected this”!!! Funny about the ads too.. That’s apparently all they have...There’s a kinda looney looking lady been standing on Main Street in little downtown Orange Va. for a couple weeks, holding a big “ANYONE BUT TRUMP” sign.. Again, it must be their election strategy...I usually have 8-10 minimum wage earner folks on my bus going past her..They laugh and say “get a real job”.. They’re going to vote so I suppose there is a slight chance that I might be sorta “helping them decide” a few things...Three years and they’ve come to trust me.. I won’t disappoint them..
     
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  5. Gundude

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    Yeah, the Fans from the beginning might argue this point, but there were plenty of signs for a reasonable person to believe Trump may not be good for the country. Bluster means nothing in real life. So all we saw were his negatives, and for cynics of political rhetoric, not much to give us hope. Really, if his opponent wasn't somebody as universally despised as Hillary, he'd have had no chance.

    In theory, now that he has a track record, Trump should gain the entire reasonable person vote in this election. But even reasonable people sometimes let their emotions get the best of them, especially when it comes to dealing with abrasive personalities. They just don't wanna give a guy like that a "win". It's just not "fair" that such a jerk would enjoy such success. And so forth. It's not reason, it's emotion, but if there's a reasonable person within, they should be a lock for Trump, and we can probably nudge them there.
     
  6. First shot

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    I’m with you @Gundude... also proves that we (those against Socialism), can except needed changes and even admit “Hey, I was wrong about this guy.. I thought he was a nut”... Past 20 years, everyone I’ve been wrong about was posing as a constitutional, conservative republican...lol...Damn nice to be on this side for a change...thanks
     
  7. robhic

    robhic I'm your huckleberry.... Platinum Member

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    Maybe tell him paying more taxes won't help when people won't go get jobs or better jobs! Waiting for other people to help them is the problem. Want better income? Go find it and leave ME alone.
     
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  8. Cubdriver

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    You should be sure to point out to him that HE'S free to send extra $$ to the IRS if he feels strongly about this. My bet is that he will continue to take all the deductions he qualifies for in order to minimize what he pays.

    -Pat
     
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  11. Biggsly

    Biggsly Good looking deplorable

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    I agree. How many more illegal invaders have democrats brought in? They will never allow voter ID. dems will sell out our country for votes. They will make up the rest.
    That said. I did tell the wife that we are getting a Trump sign and a hot wire this year.
     
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    Illegals and dead people?
     
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    You think all those who voted for Trump last time are not going to vote for him again? Probably even more votes because he’s running with a good track record this time !
     
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    Ramjet38 Mentally Frozen

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    No I'm not saying that and you know it, but don't discount the rage against Trump either.
     
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    My point is, Trump’s base is just as solid as the Democrat base. Actually I believe that Trump’s base is more solid. Furthermore, I believe that there will be many more Democrats defectors who vote for Trump than Trump voters who sit out the election, or vote for Democrats
    Democrats are not offering anything to their voters. Trump ran without a record in 2016, and now has a very positive record to run on.
     
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    The problem is the dead vote Democrat...
     
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    This next election is America vs Communism. I’m not being facetious. Your vote is quite literally for or against saving the country as it’s stood for hundreds of years...
     
  18. Doc McGlock

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    My wife and I voted for PDJT , in early voting in the Tx primary yesterday as well as Cornyn and Chip Roy.

    There were also several questions on the ballot about parents retaining the sole rights on depending meds for their children and 1st and 2nd A questions.

    I was shocked to see them, questioning the sanctity of the constitution.

    I'm guessing a bunch of panty wadded lefties got them on the ballot, sneakingly deceptive in their wording.

    I had to read them several times to be sure I was reading them correctly!

    Bastards! How is wish the Andreas fault was extended and circled Austin!

    You could throw in Houston, SA and Dallas as well, for the most part!
     
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    If you live in an open primary state, like I do, show up to the primary and vote in the Democrat election for a Bernie Sanders.

    If we can help make him the Dem nominee, great. If we can force the Dems to blatantly cheat him out of it AGAIN... even better! That would totally destroy their party.
     
  20. robhic

    robhic I'm your huckleberry.... Platinum Member

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    Hell, most politicians would sellout their families for votes!!! :steamed::steamed::steamed: