No Second Place Winner

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Glock Commander, Sep 28, 2020.

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  1. Glock Commander

    Glock Commander

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    As part of a professional reading list for LEOs I like to recommend one of my favorites, No Second Place Winner by Bill Jordan.
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    The Street Survival books and this text this are a great resource for a cop starting out in the business.
     
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    WT Millennium Member

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    I love that book. Especially the part where he suggests having a 'throw down' gun.
     
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    Lt. Donn PSO Survivor. currently in NW Georgia

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    Mine was a signed copy
     
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    Valmet M62/76 Silver Member

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    Yes- I had a signed copy before I sold it to someone who had to have it.
     
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    larry_minn Silver Member Millennium Member

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    IIRC you misunderstood. What he ment was a backup gun you could use if your main gun broke. You then “throw it down” rather then waste the time reholstering. I’m sure that was what was ment..
     
  8. SargeMO

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    I have read it and while interesting, it is not something I'd recommend as instructional for today's LE landscape. The material is dated and some of the conduct was criminal (planting evidence on a bad shoot) even at the time it was written.

    I have also read and enjoyed Unrepentant Sinner by Charles Askins.

    I would place both books in the same category.
     
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  9. Falling Crow

    Falling Crow NRA Life Member

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    I have an autographed copy :waving:
     
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    It certainly has its high points. Slightly dated but given changes over time, that is to be expected.

    The tactical edge “surviving high-risk patrol“ is also an excellent book.

    That is where I first heard the term “New York reload.”


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    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Charles Askins struck me as a psychopath that enjoyed killing people. IIRC he even stated that the reason he was such an avid game hunter was because he couldn’t hunt people anymore.
     
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    I liked the part about leaning over the edge of the bridge to look down at the water, and Oops, a pistol fell out of his pocket.
     
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    Jordan's book was a 'must read' in the 70's. In today's world, I recommend the following, which I found both highly pertinent and valuable.
    In Defense of Self and Others . . . Issues, Facts & Fallacies -- The Realities of Law Enforcement's Use of Deadly Force

    The authors were legends at the FBI academy in both law and firearms training. It's pricey on Amazon, but can be had cheaper on used book sites like abebooks.com. I put it in the category of boots/shoes for duty use. You buy the best you can find because they are so important.

    https://smile.amazon.com/Defense-Ot...ense+of+self+and+others&qid=1601390715&sr=8-2
     
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    Ranger357 Just pixels

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    I’ve heard it said his work required “EXTENSIVE” editing prior to publication, but the editor was simply too afraid of him to refuse the submissions.
     
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    IAhunter Venor ergo sum

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    I have a signed copy as well. In addition one of my kids, when toddler, got ahold of it and “signed” it crayon. Tales of the Rio Grande is my favorite Jordan book though. Jordan’s articles of the same title in Shooting Times helped steer me to my career choice.