Night Sights: Preferences, Pros, Cons, etc.
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i have trijicon bright and tough night sights for my g23, they're decently bright at night, and during the day the white that surrounds the tritium takes over for the sight picture. i don't have any issues with these.
however, i'm looking at a set of xs big dot for my g30sf though.
however, i'm looking at a set of xs big dot for my g30sf though.
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Heines,
Pros - Wide rear notch, narrow front post. So they're just as good in competition as they are for lining up in the dark.
Cons - 1. They're pricy. 2. The dot is not the biggest or brightest.
I have the Heines on my Glock17 and a set of Trijicons on my 26. I wish i'd ordered Heines for the 26 instead...
Pros - Wide rear notch, narrow front post. So they're just as good in competition as they are for lining up in the dark.
Cons - 1. They're pricy. 2. The dot is not the biggest or brightest.
I have the Heines on my Glock17 and a set of Trijicons on my 26. I wish i'd ordered Heines for the 26 instead...
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I prefer; not to use them.
For a couple of reasons.
1) If you train as much as you should your natural point of aim . . . will work pretty darned well.
2) They tend to "wash out" in the muzzle flash when it is dark. I've seen that make an awful lot of folks hesitate sending a followup shot down range until their vision sufficiently recovers to see those dang dots again.
Your mileage may vary. :wavey:
For a couple of reasons.
1) If you train as much as you should your natural point of aim . . . will work pretty darned well.
2) They tend to "wash out" in the muzzle flash when it is dark. I've seen that make an awful lot of folks hesitate sending a followup shot down range until their vision sufficiently recovers to see those dang dots again.
Your mileage may vary. :wavey:
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Meps are the brightest by far. I have Trigicons, Heinies, Novaks and a few others. Meps are the brightest by far.
The problem I have with night sights is that if its too dark to see your target what real value is a glowing sight? Yeah you can aim. But what are you shooting?
The problem I have with night sights is that if its too dark to see your target what real value is a glowing sight? Yeah you can aim. But what are you shooting?
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I have either factory Glocks or Meprolights and have been happy with both. Both are are and bright, and I almost suspect the factory sights are Mepro's.
I have them on any gun I use, and I keep them all the same, green three dots, to keep things simple.
Even if it were "pitch black", and you can literally not see anything, if your prepared, and have a flashlight along, as you should anyway, a quick flash will identify your target, and with a quick sidestep, you can use you sights without the light to shoot if necessary. Works just like a welder drooping his shield and striking a bead.
I have them on any gun I use, and I keep them all the same, green three dots, to keep things simple.
Yup, it does, and at longer ranges than most would consider, you really dont need any sights. Still, its nice to have the option and sights you can see, in any light.
Ive heard others say the night sights are useless after the first shot, but I havent found that to be the case. An easy way to check it out, is just take your gun and your super bright LED flashlight into a dark room with light colored walls. Let your eyes adjust a bit, then with your gun pointed at the wall a couple of inches away from it, and your light at the muzzle pointing at the wall as well, focus on the sights and hit the flash a couple of times. That light is going to be a lot brighter than any flash out of the gun, and youll see the night sights come right back up, with little lag.
95% or more of the time, its not "pitch black" and you can usually see what your looking at. Night sights also arent just for "night", and work well in darker places or against dark backgrounds during the day as well.
Even if it were "pitch black", and you can literally not see anything, if your prepared, and have a flashlight along, as you should anyway, a quick flash will identify your target, and with a quick sidestep, you can use you sights without the light to shoot if necessary. Works just like a welder drooping his shield and striking a bead.
Might you guys have any pictures? I've been looking up the brands that you guys are referring to but the websites don't have very good pictures illustrating the sight picture one should expect to see. I don't care what the sights look like from the side or front as I don't plan on standing to the side or front while firing!
These are my ATF sights and I would not hesitate to do it again.
Trijicon HD Night Sights:
http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=HDNS
I prefer them over the Amerigo I-dot GL-203
http://www.ameriglo.net/catalog/sights/pistol-sights/glock/night-sights/complete-sets/i-dot
The XS big dot and little dot sights are ok but after having tried the Trijicon HD I will not go back.
http://xssights.com/index.php?nID=sights&cID=Sights&pID=sights&sID=handgun
Trijicon HD Night Sights:
http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product1.php?id=HDNS
I prefer them over the Amerigo I-dot GL-203
http://www.ameriglo.net/catalog/sights/pistol-sights/glock/night-sights/complete-sets/i-dot
The XS big dot and little dot sights are ok but after having tried the Trijicon HD I will not go back.
http://xssights.com/index.php?nID=sights&cID=Sights&pID=sights&sID=handgun
I never tried Trijicon's HD night sights but I have heard good things about them. However I prefer the three dot setup and with the HD sights you only get one illuminated dot(front sight) as opposed to the bright & tough where all three are illuminated. I would imagine it's easier to align your sights up with all three illuminated as opposed to one. The HD sights are also more expensive if I'm not mistaken. Then again I've never tried them.... It just makes more sense to me to have the rear and front sights illuminated to line up your sights on target?:dunno:
I have several glocks so I have tried Heine's, Trijicons, Truglo TFO's, Ameriglo I-dots, and Mepros. The Heine's and Trijicons were not very bright and were very hard to see. The Trueglo's broke within 6 months (actually the FO still works, but the Front night site went "black"). I like the Ameriglos and the Mepros. The Mepros are definitely the brightest but if you lean away from 3-dot patterns the I-Dots are very good.
As to the gentlemen who don't use them because if you can't identify your target you shouldn't be shooting, try camping in wolf country these days. I don't care which wolf is stalking my campsite ( I don't have to see his face clearly)to want to line my sights up on his aggressive carcass in a standoff. I found that when I went camping with the Heine set-up, I was really wishing for my Mepros.
As to the gentlemen who don't use them because if you can't identify your target you shouldn't be shooting, try camping in wolf country these days. I don't care which wolf is stalking my campsite ( I don't have to see his face clearly)to want to line my sights up on his aggressive carcass in a standoff. I found that when I went camping with the Heine set-up, I was really wishing for my Mepros.
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Did a lot of thinking on this matter while I was waiting on my G30 to be shipped and arrive.
You can see what I went with in the pic.....just picked up my G30 today. I'll have to install them later this afternoon over a pot of coffee.
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You can see what I went with in the pic.....just picked up my G30 today. I'll have to install them later this afternoon over a pot of coffee.
Today is a good day off!!!!!
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