NH lawsuit claims SIG 320 pistol fired without trigger pull

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  1. Sawyer26

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    Heard John Lovell of Warrior Poet Society on YT talk about the Sig 320...he claims they're an overcomplicated design and are going to be prone to problems because of that. That was his opinion, as a Sig armorer himself...
     
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    I wonder if they simply didn't do enough testing due to the P320 being a P250 redesigned to be striker-fired instead of DAO hammer-fired. Whatever the case, hopefully they and others learn from this...
     

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    There were threads here about the other LEO incidents when they occurred. So nothing new really, other than further speculation/evidence that the 320 design has yet another dangerous flaw. I wonder how Sig can continue to pretend nothing is wrong if they freely admit certain "vibrations" will cause the thing to fire.
     
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    Where there is smoke there is fire and there has been a whole lot of believable smoke here.
     
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    Didn’t we have a thread here about 5-6 weeks ago from someone who claimed his nightstand Glock fired all by itself while he was sleeping ?
     
  7. JoeCitizen

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    Hammer fired DA/SA would have prevented this.
     
  8. Schrag4

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    I missed that one. I can see vibration causing a gun to fire, but one completely still on a nightstand? Anything’s possible but nobody will believe that.

    When I saw this thread title I was thinking this was yet another person holstering with their finger or a drawstring or whatever on the trigger, but it doesn’t sound like it. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I hate to see anything like this that will cost millions to a firearms manufacturer and get people hurt.
     
  9. Bren

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    My P320 X-Five is one of my best target guns, but I have said before that I don't trust them for self-defense. Too delicate, internally. I'll stick with Glock for self-defense.
     
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    From the context in the article, it appears to be referencing a press release from 2017, which would be pre-upgrade, so this is not a recent statement:

    "A Stamford, Conn., SWAT officer sued SIG Sauer in August 2017 after his holstered pistol fell and discharged a bullet into his knee, Guay’s lawsuit claims.

    Four days later, according to court paperwork, SIG Sauer “issued a press release stating that the P320 could fire without a trigger pull under certain conditions, including vibration, but “reaffirmed” the safety of the P320 to all end users.”"


    So they're trying to make it sound like Sig is addressing a recent problem, but the context of this quote is from a statement issued four days after the 2017 lawsuit, not four days after the most recent lawsuit.

    This doesn't mean there isn't still some problem with the P320.
     
  11. Deputydave

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    The P320 has been plagued with bad press pretty much since it came out.

    This!

    I have been saying since forever that striker-fired pistols would be inherently safer if they had a manual thumb safety. Yeah, I know all the cool operators on YT don't like thumb safeties, but a LOT of issues would have been avoided with a properly engaged thumb safety. And though a problem can always arise during the blue moon, DA/SA and DAO are inherently safer because you have more of a tactile feel (if you're properly trained) when re-holstering the weapon and because of a longer, heavier initial press of the trigger.
     
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    Interesting, hope the P365 is not affected in this way!
     
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    You and me both!
     
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    This is why I think anyone carrying even a partially cocked striker appendix style is nuts.
     
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    Maybe not for long.
     
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    Any link? That would be a good read :)
     
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    Does the 320 not have a physical block preventing the sear from dropping away from the firing pin lug? With Glocks there's a shelf in the trigger housing that part of the cruciform rests in to prevent a sudden jolt or vibration knocking the cruciform down into the housing and releasing the firing pin. Then beside that the firing pin is partially cocked with the trigger forward instead of fully cocked.
     
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    Poor US Army.
     
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    SIG will issue an "upgrade" again, for sure.
     
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    Doesn't the P320 have a firing pin block that should prevent firing even if the striker slips off the sear?
     
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