I've waited to post for a few months to decide how I like the Talons on my G23. After about 500 rounds under different conditions, I must say they are an excellent, a relatively inexpensive investment, very quick delivery, and easy to install. Even when wet, they just don't allow the weapon to move around in my hand. They do tend to "grab" some fabrics when when I carry concealed, but I haven't had a problem working around that minor issue. I want to try a set on my G30 to see if I like them as well on that weapon. Since the grip on the 30 is so "fat", I'm not sure this will be a good match, but I'll see.