[norman9X]

Just saw this flier in Countermeasures. Looks similar to an HK G36 or UMP.

http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/86-law-enforcement-military/OS-AUT/CZ_SCORPION_EVO_3_A1.aspx

Pwede!

 

[ahtsay]

Is it reliable? Looks good though.

 

[norman9X]

Reliability, I think it still goes "time will tell" because basically it's a new gun in the market. I haven't seen any reviews yet or even torture tests. And in fact I'm quite surprised also because this is the first time I've heard of this smg being around in the news of gun universe through magazines. Well they say it's just an upgraded Skorpion VZ if you still remember that small Russian gun but this is a whole new design and looks like a copy of that HK smgs judging on the ambidextrous controls. Hopefully the reviews are good enough to be compared to an Uzi or HK MP5 in terms of reliability and accuracy.

Price quote to me is 290k I think

 

[MERCMADE]

http://youtu.be/udMoWLphjhE

 

[bikethief]

Got to demo it a couple of times. It's super reliable and ate any ammo we fed it including crappy reloads. Ran at least 800 rounds through it. Its fully ambidextrous and modular. Accuracy was up to par with the MP5. I was getting quick alpha hits at 80m without much difficulty with the irons. Ang bilis lang ng ROF on full auto but thats a non-issue for me. The triburst feels like just one shot. I think they are pricing it to compete with the Turkish MP5's in which case I can definitively say the Evo3 is much more value for money.

 

[edtf]

with CZ's reputation I think it would be a very reliable firearm. YUP I heard the price was not bad. I just wish it would stay that way - This would be a great car gun ---- well if you can get to license it. If not it would be a great closet queen :supergrin:

 

[horge]

I like the way the triggerguard is formed to help guide fresh magazines into the well.

 

[glockworxphilippines]

Is it reliable? Looks good though.

I went to Manila for a 2 week meeting last September 2011 and I got to test this new SMG from CZ, here is a video of me testing the SMG in my friends private range somewhere in Q.C.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7NxudWr7FM

 

[mtho]

Is that jonathans range?

 

[MAJINKONG]

 

[edtf]

forget the gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :whistling::wow:

 

[ahtsay]

Is that jonathans range?

It does look familiar doesn't it? :supergrin:

 

[mtho]

hello team scooby member

 

[Wp.22]

forget the gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :whistling::wow:

nawala yung pusod:supergrin:

 

[mtho]

baka alien yan

 

[Vault Keeper]

baka alien yan

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[Punisher_nbi45]

I did a review of the Skorpion for my agency. Basically, we all liked its weight, handiness, and that it was easy to control. Just like Bikethief, we were easily getting hits with the irons at distance. Overall, it's a nice subgun to have, if you don't mind the caliber (9mm).

The cons we did observe was that the selector switch was quite stiff to manipulate and that you needed an allen wrench to disassemble it. We also did an impromptu mud test, it did function after being thrown (by me) into the muddy dirt, but just a reminder, it does not contain any type of military-grade coating, so it will definitely rust if you let it remain wet.

 

[paltik454]

is it a close bolt subgun or an open bolt?

 

[Punisher_nbi45]

is it a close bolt subgun or an open bolt?

The Skorpion Evo 3 is a closed-bolt sub-machine gun. I'm not really sure, but I believe the bot operating system is some type of delayed-action as I remember it.

One thing I did forget to mention in my original post is that this system employs a bolt-hold open device. The device positively holds the bolt open on the last shot. However, this precludes the magazine from falling freely when ejected. I think it's typical European thinking that they would want you to hang on to your mags, thus, this peculiar thing.

If you wanted the mag to fall freely, you would have to grasp the charging handle at the front, rack it all the way to the rear, and then push it up to its stop position ala HK MP5. After doing this, you could then hit the mag release and the mag will now freely fall. Magazines, by the way, are 30-rounders.

If I were to come up with a manual of arms for this system, I would definitely go for the latter actuation so that the mag would fall free. I would then insert a new mag, slap the charging handle so it would go home on its own, then raise the gun up and continue to fire. Just my opinion, folks.

 

[isuzu]

They probably based it on the original Skorpion vz.61. This platform would be a good choice also. From Wolverine Supplies (also the importer of SAM 1911 pistols): http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/default.asp?Pg=8&do=4&mcid=1&scid=12&mfid=325