It looks to me like most matches have under 40 shooters in amateur guardian division. Last year in KY we had over 400 shooters/entries and only 36 in amateur guardian. As I understand the new scoring system, in a class with 40 or fewer shooters, only the top 10 will get prizes and there will be no randomly selected awards. Is that correct, or do I have the system wrong? If so, doesn't that mean the Am. Guard. shooters who don't really expect to be at the top are better off shooting amateur civilian? I looked at the Lexington KY numbers from last year and it looked like, under the new system, we would have had a number of additional prizes in Amateur civilian, but only the top 10 for amateur guardian.

I have not reviewed all the past results but as I recall AmGuardian actually has more pistols given away than AmCiv. Look at the Amderson SC results. AmCiv had 156 shooters and 3 pistols were given away. AmGuardian had 3 given away with only 47 entires. Besides, I think "officially" you are required to shoot AmGuardian if you qualify. I have a relative who suggested that I shoot AmGuardian with him since I would stand a better chance of winning a first place gun; even though nobody audits the entrants I feel like it would be cheating since I am a civilian.

i read how the system worked once. if i remember it right they have 10 prizes per 25 shooters and for each additional 25 shooters they have 10 more prizes, but gssf can make adjustments as they see fit. i may not be 100% correct but it's close to how they give out the prizes. i know at a match this year i shot better in AmCiv than the best AmGuard shooter he got a pistol and i finished out of the money in the top 10.

Look at Statesville, the numbers have changed on payouts. AmGuard was 39 players, 10 awards, 1 though 5 and 5 random, 2 pistols. AmCiv had 4 pistols for 144 shooters, all in the first 29 places including a back to back pair. Not saying anything about it, just noticed the numbers when I was looking.

The Rules only allow civilians to shoot in Am Civ, but a police officer can shoot in either am civ or am guardian, but not both in the same match. But your answer did lead me to the solution - they only give prizes to the top 5 in amateur guardian, unlike amateur civilian, then they distribute randomly through the rest and the rotation of prizes only has 1 gun, 1 $100, 1 $75, one $50 and 1 $25, so there is higher percentage of big prizes awarded (i.e., 20% are guns in AG, but 10% are guns in AC). I had better let my brother know I was wrong when I advised him to shoot amateur civilian. I now wish I could shoot in amateur guardian, but while I am employed by a law enforcement agency and I am a law enforcement firearms instructor, I am neither a sworn officer nor a full-time firearms instructor.

No, it's 10 prizes for every 40 shooters, or 1 in 4, in both guardian and civilian. However the distribution is different between guardian and civilian, so that guardian has a better chance of winning a gun.

In amateur civilian they award prizes to the top 10, so that's 10 gone based on scores. Then the random selection rotates through a list of prizes that is - GLOCK Pistol, $100, $75, $50, $50, $25, $25, $25, $25, $25. Amateur guardian only awards prizes based on score to the top 5, so that means more random draw prizes and, best of all, the prize list is only gun, $100, $75, $50, $25, one time each, so for 10 random prize drawings in amateur guardian, the prize list would be - 2 guns, 2 $100, 2 $75, 2 $50 and 2 $25. It is, therefore, weighted more toward the higher end prizes - 20% of the 10 are guns and 20% are $100, compared to 10% of the 10 being guns and 10% being $100 in amateur civilian. So, if there are 40 shooters in amateur civilian, the prizes are GLOCK Pistol, $100, $75, $50, $50, $25, $25, $25, $25, $25 top the top 10 only. If there are 40 in amateur guardian, the prizes are GLOCK Pistol, GLOCK Pistol, $100, $100, $75, $75, $50, $50, $25, $25, with half going to winners and half randomly drawn. If there are 41 shooters in amateur guarding, make that THREE GUNS, along with 2 of everything else. Not bad, huh? Actually, about as good as last year when about 2/3 of the AG shooters got prizes, but they were the same Lewis Class distribution as amateur civilian.