First off I want to thank all of you for putting together a data base. I could not find Info on my gun anywhere. I went down to my local gun store to buy a new G17, Most of my other handguns are 9mm so It made since. Never owned a Glock but have fired them and always liked them just always have a problem spending money I suppose. Uncle sam was nice enough to give me back some of my money so without putting much thought Into It I went down to get It before I saw something else I couldnt live without. But they were all out of G17's except for a used one. I didn't give much thought to It just asked the guy to find out when they would get more new ones In. He told me maybe a week or so, Knowing myself, I wouldn't be back In a week for that, I mean after all this money Is burning a massive hole In my pocket. So I ask to look at the used one. I broke It down and It appeared to have no wear at all, no holster wear no scratches, nothing at all. I said I'll take It knowing It was at least a 3rd gen I figured It was a great deal for 450$... It was bothering me I didnt know how old the gun was. I looked everywhere and nothing. Then I found you guy's and at last Aug 2008. To say the least Im very pleased fairly new and hardly used someone diddnt want It and now It's mine. I pick It up the 24th since Im here In California I must wait. But a big thank's to everyone here.