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New Glock Owner w/ Many Questions

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by mattgg1, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. mattgg1

    mattgg1

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    I will be picking up my first handun, a G19, this weekend. As a first-time handgun and Glock owner, I have several questions I'd like feedback on...

    Cleaning/Care
    - What items should I buy to properly clean and care for my G19?

    Ammo
    - It seems that Federal HST 124 +P, Gold Dot 124 +P, and Winchester Ranger T 127gr +P are all respected/preferred brands.
    - Should I use one of these brands both at the range and for home defense, or find something else for the range?

    Eye/Ear Protection
    - Does everyone own eye/ear protection and wear it everytime they shoot? If so, what should I buy?

    Holsters
    - I'm looking for a holster to use at home/nightstand and during transport to/from the range. I don't have any immediate plans for a CCW.
    - What type of holsters would you recommend?

    Training
    - I've only found one place in my area that offers basic handgun training. It is a 2-hour course for $45 offered by a local gun shop. Are there any other training resources I should try and find?

    Thanks!
     
  2. mr.z28

    mr.z28 learning...

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    im in the same boat bro, plan on picking up a glock by the end of next week...just cant figure out if i want a 19 or 26, thought i was sure til like 5 minutes ago...wheres the popcorn?...lol...:popcorn:
     

  3. burthouse

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    I personally use Hoppes, but any good cleaning kit will work. Buy extra patches you'll need those, and some extra solvent and you'll be good for awhile. As far as how often you should clean it personal preference. I clean mine every range trip.

    Buy some ammo and see how it shoots. Everythings gonna shoot different for everyone. The biggest thing is you need to make sure your self defense ammo will feed properly so you need to shoot some of that. Other than that use what ever you can get your hands on.


    I have basic ears and eyes, doesn't really matter as long as they work. Sometimes I'll double up ear plugs and muffs which does make a difference.

    Dunno where you live, but in Ohio you can't transport a loaded firearm without having a CHL liscense so the glock case works fine until then. If you're gonna set it on your nightstand I wouldn't use a holster, just let it lay there. But if you plan on open carrying and or your laws are different about transporting a loaded firearm then check out an uncle mikes holster.

    If you've never had any formal training before take the class.
     
  4. MCYGlock20

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    Where are you located?


    Training
    - I've only found one place in my area that offers basic handgun training. It is a 2-hour course for $45 offered by a local gun shop. Are there any other training resources I should try and find?

    Thanks![/quote]
     
  5. ssax

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    Pick up some patches, Hoppes #9 (optional but recommended), CLP, A good brush, double sided with large and small brush is nice. A lot of people use a silicone cloth. I don't, I would like to try one though.

    You should shoot them to find out if they work well in your gun and for you. You want to shoot the hollow points every now and then so that you are used to shooting them. But really just pick up a bunch of FMJ in the same grain that you are going to be shooting in hollow point.

    Definitely eyes and ears. Ricochets are a *****. YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE AN EYE DO YOU? Ears, you want good hearing when your older right? electronic or regular. Get them.

    Holsters, you have to try some and find what works for you. If you aren't CCW then I probably would just look for an OWB one for the range, maybe a blackhawk serpa level 2.

    I can't help you on the training, but if you search through these forums there is a thread somewhere about good instructors. Basic pistol is a must. Don't unlearn bad habbits, learn it right the first time. Ask for references. Ask at different shops that don't have their own training to get a better idea of what is available in your area. You can ask that other place too, but sometimes they can be biased of course.

    my .02
     
  6. TheRogue

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    It would be good to find a mentor, a "range buddy" if you will...

    Maybe post a shout-out in here. Just say I live in this (?) area, and if anyone is heading out to the range, would it be possible if I could join you?

    You may get some PM's.
     
  7. CitizenOfDreams

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    Cleaning/care: your gun shop should sell gun cleaning kits like Outers, they contain all you need.

    Ammo: self defense ammo is several times more expensive than range ammo, so you would not want to shoot it at the range on a regular basis. Any factory loaded ammunition - even the dreaded Wolf - is perfectly fine for a range practice.

    Ear protection: wear it ALL THE TIME at the range. Brand does not matter so much.

    Eye protection: If you are wearing glasses, you may not need one (provided your glasses have large polycarbonate lenses and you don't mind getting an occasional mark on them). Otherwise, wear eye protection every time you are near the firing line.

    Holsters: can't tell you much about them, don't have CCW permit yet.

    Training: definitely get some if this is your first experience with firearms. Don't be embarassed, we all had to start somewhere.
     
  8. bklynpete

    bklynpete Viet Nam Vet

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    I hope this helps you.

    Pete
     
  9. ATXChris

    ATXChris Owns One Gun

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    Definitely go for the training.

    As far as eyes and ears, may I suggest spending a few dollars more to get a decent pair of electronic ear muffs? These are great for training and going to the range with friends because they amplify safe sounds like voices and immediately clip dangerous sounds like gun fire. I wear a pair of Howard Leight R-01526 Impact Sport Electronic Earmuffs (~$50 on Amazon) turned to near max volume most of the time with a pair of disposable foam earplugs inside for extra protection. Call me paranoid, but I'm a music nut and I value my hearing. :)

    Please note: These are nowhere near the ultimate in electronic ear muffs, but they are good value. There are other more expensive options that provide more protection (the higher the NRR rating, the more protection). If you want to go straight to the bad boys (what most of the trainers I've worked with so far are wearing), check out http://www.pro-ears.com/
     
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  10. Tennessee Slim

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    Cleaning/Care
    Any standard 9mm/.38 cal pistol cleaning kit will do. One of the beauties of Glocks is they do not require special -- or even frequent -- care. Many GTers prefer Mobil 1 motor oil as a lubricant (no, I'm not kidding). One quart is about $7, it's every bit as effective as hi-priced firearms-specific lubes and the one quart will last you about 326,000 years.

    Ammo
    Good self-defense ammo almost always is more expensive than range or target practice ammo. One reason why is that plinking ammo is a lighter, less-pwerful load. It will be less punishing to shoot during extended sessions but it also will have different recoil characteristics from your self defense load. Although your practice probably would benefit from shooting the same load all the time, there are practical benefits to practicing with the lighter loads. It's your call.

    Eye/Ear Protection
    Always. I'd recommend ear plugs and cups. Your eye protection (you are wearing eye protection, arent you?) probably will prevent your cups having a perfect seal. The ear plugs take up their slack. I wear them both less for hearing protection than because it reduces how much I'm prone to flinching when the guy next to me shoots. That in turn improves the quality of my range session.

    Holsters
    Most ranges require you enter with the firearm cased. A holster doesn't count.

    Training
    $45/2 hours sounds like an awfully fair rate. Is it an NRA-certified instructor? Post your location and maybe another GTer can point you to some other options.
     
  11. tango44

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    Congrats on the G19 good choice. my answers in red.
     
  12. mattgg1

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    I want to thank everyone for all of your quick and helpful responses.

    I'll post some follow-up questions once I've been able to thoroughly read these posts.

    FYI...
    I live in southwestern Ohio. Feel free to share any ideas for training in my part of the country.

    Thanks again!
     
  13. LEAD

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    wear ear protection every time, but you should shoot at least one shot without ear protection so you can know what to expect. If you shoot outdoors away from buildings, understand that when shooting near a building, or when in a building the sound will be signifacantly louder.

    Most of your glock cleaning can be accomplished with CLP the brush provided, cleaning patches, a rag and a toothbrush.
     
  14. burthouse

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    Matt, check out shooters supply. Great range I attend the one in Independence Kentucky almost once a week. There is also one around the tri county area. I stay away from target world. If you're looking to CCW check out http://www.woodhilltraining.com/ they are great. You learn about the pistols and get your NRA pistol class out of the way. It also allows you to get your certificate to get your CCW which is easy after the class. Hope this helps.
     
  15. glockguerilla

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    Training and practice, plenty of practice learning the basics of marksmanship/safety. And a lot of practice given your budget and availability of ammo. I love my G19 and serves as
    a backup companion to my G23. I've been shooting for 30 years and find Prolix a real
    plus for cleaning. http://www.prolixlubricant.com/

    Hornady's critical defense ammo is what I use in the G19.
    http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=786
     
  16. Tennessee Slim

    Tennessee Slim Señor Member CLM

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    Once caveat: The worst thing you can do to your Glock (apart maybe from pounding nails with it) is to over-lubricate it. Some guns function best when swimming in oil but over-oiling is the number one cause of user-induced malfunctions in a Glock. Lubricate very sparingly and only in the six places indicated by your owner's manual.
     
  17. LEAD

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    read your owners manual!
     
  18. glock19_fan

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    Google "Glock armorer manual", and read it!! Also Youtube has a lot of Glock cleaning videos, google on Youtube "Glock cleaning" and you'll find a lot of useful videos, which are absolutely worthwhile to watch.
     
  19. santo

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    for the training, is there any local ranges to you? The NRA should have a instructor in your area that provides the one day safety training course. if worse case, glockstore.com offeres SEVERAL training vidoes. While not as good as the real thing, it's better then nothing. And welcome to glock talk and great choise in a gun!
     
  20. Elliott

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    Everyone here has given great advise. The only thing I would add, is my personal experience with the Blackhawk Serpa holster. I really like this holster! I own one for my G27 which is canted for cross draw while driving. I have another set up for straight draw on the my strong side, for my G22. The beauty of the Serpa, is that you can adjust it for different draw angles. Both of mine are paddle holsters. They can be purchased for around $25 online.