New CZ Issue

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  1. army_eod

    army_eod US Army Retired, EOD, PM, PMP

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    I posted this in the CZ forum just now.

    First post and first CZ pistol. Just picked up my CZ Shadow 2. Did lots of research before deciding on this pistol.

    Went out and put about 200 rounds downrange with no issues.

    My issue was when I removed the left grip; or attempted to remove. The screw was very tight. Seems the grip hole and frame hole are not really lined up.

    I messed up the threads on the screw. Not sure if the threads in the frame are boogered now. I managed to re install the stock aluminum grip but the screw is boogered.

    Was not happy to see the misalignment of grip holes and frame hole. Not sure if this was a problem from the factory or not. I did not even attempt to remove the right grip at that point.

    This is really not something that should be happening with an expensive pistol.

    Anybody else have this issue?

    Now I ordered new screws but that does not fix the misalignment problem or the possible stripped threads in the frame.

    I have a choice; do nothing, send to CZ or have a gunsmith look at it.

    It is brand new so I am leaning toward sending back to CZ.

    Not happy with having a gun for one day and then finding this problem and having to send back for repair.

    Not a good start for CZ Shadow 2.
     
  2. Quijibo

    Quijibo King Doofus.

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  3. BUG'S

    BUG'S

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    Send it back to CZ they will make it right.
     
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  4. army_eod

    army_eod US Army Retired, EOD, PM, PMP

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    I have an email into CZ about it.
     
  5. hardluk1

    hardluk1

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    NO useful answered will be found here . Get a shipping label and let CZ give it some TLC . If man makes it then it can be screwed up .
     
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    Absolutely! It goes back to CZ and they will surely sort it out.
     
  7. Ahmid

    Ahmid CLM

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    Back to CZ....
     
  8. collim1

    collim1 5ft of fury. The champ is back!

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    It’s really easy to strip grips screws in allow frame.

    The torque recommendations are usually very minute. Like 16 inch pounds. It’s almost impossible not to overtighten them.
     
  9. bababoris

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    On the plus side you now own an excellent pistol


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  10. ThomasM4

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    I dont remember there being loctite on my grip screws but I've found it on every other screw on the pistol. Infact I had to replace the magazine catch because I rounded off the torx bit head. On the replacement that I orderd I heated it slightly with a pin torch and you could see the loctite running out of it once it got hot enough.
    I'll add this just to give you an idea how much loctite they use when I pushed the rear sight off there was a puddle of dry loctite underneath it. On the magazine release paddle I didn't even bother with adding any more because there was still plenty in the threads once I got the factory one off.
     
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  11. army_eod

    army_eod US Army Retired, EOD, PM, PMP

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    Yes there was Loctite on the screw
     
  12. ThomasM4

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    Ok that doesn't surprise me just didn't remember. So yea every screw in that gun is loctited so you know.
     
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  13. army_eod

    army_eod US Army Retired, EOD, PM, PMP

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    Locktiting every screw I don’t think is necessary do you
     
  14. ThomasM4

    ThomasM4

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    I don't think it necessary either infact I've not added any to it from all the work I've done on mine.
    Apex s2 trigger kit.
    Replaced front and rear sights
    Lok grips
    Cz custom magazine pads

    Iam assuming it just something cz does because every thing I've unscrewed has had loctite even that trigger return spring screw hold down that has detents preventing it from loosening up still had loctite on it .:freak:
     
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  15. ThomasM4

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    I would add and you probably already know this but just for anyone else that comes along and reads it.
    If you going to start taking the czs2 down please invest in some dedicated gunsmithing tools . I already had a dedicated gunsmithing screw driver set from Fostners and before I started messing around with the s2 I picked up a set of starrett punches, the cz custom starter punch ( the cz custom starter punch is probably a necessity especially on the hammer pin / strut its staked on.)
    the cz bench block ( again probably another necessity because of the hammer pin)
    Dedicated gunsmithing hammer
    And if you are going to do sights a mgw pro sight pusher.
    The hammer / strut pin is very well staked in and if I didn't have the cz custom bench vise and starter punch. I would have f***ed up with out the right tools.
     
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  16. camelsfly

    camelsfly Previously Lloyd Elliott

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    About a week ago I saw and handled the first CZ Shadow 2 that I have seen. It is a very fine pistol and that trigger is better than sweet.
     
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  17. jame

    jame I don't even know....what I'm doing here....

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    Brownell’s is where you find that stuff. Just a word of warning, the tools there are NOT cheap, but I bought a basic gunsmithing kit from them back in 1980, and they’re still in use at my bench today. They’re worth every penny.
     
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  18. ThomasM4

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    Yeap that's were I bought it all was brownells. ;)
    Except for the cz custom bench block and starter punch.
     
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    I'm really sorry to read this , as I'm the guy that recommended the rubber CZ grips that I'm assuming you were going to install. Did you notice if it was the original grip that was miss-drilled or the frame? Did you look to see if your new rubber grip lined up with the frame?
    I'm sure CZ will make it right but, you are correct, a gun this expensive should not have to be sent back! Keep us posted.
     
  20. Bradley T

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    I may have missed it, but why unscrew the grips on a brand new gun?
    Congrats on a cool pistol, by the way!

    It may have just been cross-threaded by someone at the plant. They'll fix it.
    I ought to get a CZ. I live driving-distance from their US office. I could take mine right in the front door to 'em.