I picked up a Det Special on Saturday. Blue with Factory Pachmayr Grips. Not a mark on it. No box or papers though. $400 plus a transfer fee of $20. This was at the gun show in Oaks PA. Single action is nice. Double action is a little heavy. I had been looking for a shrouded model for awhile. This one was nicer than I expected to find and not as expensive as I thought.