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Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by ChrisD46, Sep 9, 2019.
It's doubtful anyone here is going to know that.
Likely true, but it still doesn’t necessitate beating the dead horse we have going here.
Does anyone actually have specifications or a quotation in the literature to show that the dimensions of the Brazilian Gen 4 40 caliber slides are indeed larger, heavier, and more "Beefed up" than a gen 4 slide? Or is that just speculation?
First of all. I don't see why it would be necessary, since there is no history of slide breakage with either the 357 or 40 caliber Glocks.
Supposedly the only "Issues" with the 40 caliber Glocks were frame battering from not changing the recoil springs often enough, and weapon mounted lights causing accuracy problems because of the dust covers being too thin. (which also no doubt contributed to "Pignose" frame warpage)
And secondly, in the case of a G23, I don't see that it would be desirable to have a thicker heavier slide especially on a compact or subcompact sized gun.
That was the one thing that was wrong with the 45 GAP, that it wasn't exactly the same size and weight as a G26, G19, or G17 but had a thicker and heavier slide.
That didn't matter so much with the full size guns meant to be carried OWB, but it was less than desirable with the compact and sub-compacts.
Anyone who wants a heavier gun in 40 caliber should just get a G20 and shoot 40 S&W ammo out of it.
Now that Glock seems to be phasing out the half-moon cut-outs on the front of the Gen 5 grips. I'd actually like to see a Gen 5 G23 and a 40 caliber equivalent of the G19x with no finger grooves or mag cut-out and in black rather than coyote turd yellow.
And I'd like to see the same guns availabe with factory optional 357 Sig barrels as well.
Well I guess if the Brazilian 22 passes muster IT WILL BE the Gen 5, hopefully this larger product has been put through issues of the past and are corrected.
Too many here have unnatural feelings of attachment to their choices.
Personally change is needed and apparently Glock has realized such.
Borg, heres a thread that may have started discussion. See thread about Gen 5’s.
Will All Glocks go Gen 5?
Pure speculation based only on the articles, pictures where the side bevel is clearly visible, YouTube videos of the actual test, and the spec sheet noting differences in both slide width and weight.
Glock list it’s normal slides as 1.00, large frame as 1.12 and the Gen 5 22’s as 1.08. It also list the Gen 5 22’s weight as 26.31 oz vs 22.75 oz.
Could need it for lack of the 3rd frame pin, or just a design change for better reliability. A heaver slide would decrease peoples perceived recoil as well.
And more slide mass is the optimal engineering change to mitigate this. Particularly with the elimination of the third pin, which was added specifically for the .40 cal.
And as mentioned above, recoil characteristics should end up being more pleasant.
A Gen5 with manual safety???
Like James said all Glocks should be 9mm.
Except for my G21...
If Glock follows past patterns it won’t come with a safety. Of course you never know...
Kinda weird, I keep getting notifications of new post in this thread but not seeing anything after September 16th?
That happens to me occasionally. I've gotten three notifications like that from a couple different forums tonight.
I want one of those!!! Geez, but I'd love a deal on a Gen3 or Gen4 G22. Likely a Gen3 to match my Gen3 G27. .40, please!
Wow! Pretty awesome price! Thanks for sharing!
Why so much 9mm chatter in a thread about the G22???
Because the 9mm true believers feel the need to proselytize anytime the .40 is mentioned.
No need for a heavier slide just a stronger RSA that Glock should be putting in the .40 and 357 Sig to begin with. There is a world of difference between lighting off a 357 Sig or .40 loaded with Underwood and a mouse fart 147gr 9mm. The same RSA just doesn't work well for these different calibers.
Waiting on the g23X..