New Army handgun = Sig Sauer

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  1. arrtvandelay

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    If so, not a surprise, considering the focus on a "modular" premise.

    I didn't see where the caliber was named, though.
     
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    Speculation is 9mm, but with modularity applying to caliber.
     
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    I am a Glock fan,while I'm more than aware they are nowhere near perfection.
    I don't own a Sig 320 but have shot and worked on a buddies 320 quite a bit.
    By the published requirements the Sig 320 is the gun I would have chosen as most closely matching the requrements. SJ 40
     
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    I could easily see "modularity" being applied to caliber selection (mission specific, etc), but wondered whether that would mean 1, 2 or 3 calibers being eventually accepted for use in the pistol platform selected.

    In other words, being able to select caliber based on operational needs, including availability in AO's, or, another service deciding it wanted to change calibers, in total. (Like the Air Force having previously mentioned considering .40 S&W?)

    I can see the easily serviced, self-contained FC assembly being an inherently desirable advantage from the get go.
     
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    Is anyone surprised? The specification was clearly written for the SIG P320. No other manufacturer really had a chance.
     
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    While the modularity is an interesting design, I think it's a little overrated. To change calibers, you need a different slide, barrel and magazine. I can change calibers on a Glock, with that many parts. :dunno:
     
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    At least it's not the Austrian abortion.

    And I'm sure that Uncle Sam's quality inspectors will make SIG USA toe the line.
     
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    I wonder if it will affect the price of Berettas
     
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    Agree. I mean that was only good enough to replace the Colt. Certainly not the Beretta.
     
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    Looks like a big Kel Tec, with the modular action inside the plastic frame. At least it's not DA/SA and doesn't have the slide-mounted safety. That alone will make it about twice as likely our personnel and finance clerks will qualify on the range. I find myself not very thrilled - more of a "so what?" I'd have been a lot happier with the Glock.
     
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    Another Colt would have lasted Uncle Sam another 75-years of service.

    Of course one cannot expect any sort of plastic contraption to compare to Colt's finest offering to the combat handgun world.
     
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    Just watched the video on the 320. At first I was thinking what's the advantage over a Glock, but watching it be field stripped its easy to see the advantage.

    However, how rugged will a polymer pistol be for military use?
     
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    I was under the premise that the armed forces already specked out and ordered Glocks.
    Either way I have no dog in the fight. We went to the M9 back in the day, then a couple of years later had Sig MK25 offered, rather forced on us. We didn't like them, too finicky and fragile. It is still in use as far as I know.
    I guess they either worked out the problems or the Army is being the Army. Both had the disadvantage of being a 9MM, something that didn't fare well. .45 ball was bad enough, but the 9MM was hot and punched through a target like a pencil. Put a modern SD round in it and you have something, but the ammo really made the 9 a scoffed round.
     
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    Former infantryman here and also a Sig 320 owner . It's a good pistol and will serve our troops well . Now I hope they get proper training with it .
     
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    I wonder what this will do to any civilian that wants a Sig in the near future. Even before this announcement, Sig was way behind on deliveries. I'd guess that when Sig spools up the military contracts, they will fall behind much more so.

    I don't own any Sigs. I'm glad that I'm not waiting for one.
     
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