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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by mhambi, Oct 6, 2015.
With flying now being the unpleasant task it has become, I would gladly pay extra to be able to lay flat and comfortably and deeply sleep through a long flight.
And yes, I will lay flat if given the option, even if that makes me a jerk!
Don't worry, that's not what makes you a jerk........
I like this idea. Looks like it would be more comfortable than cramming seats so close my 5'9" frame struggles to fit...
You can get that on long haul flights, but it'll cost you. I used airline miles to fly to Hong Kong first class with a lay flat seat and the cash price was ~14K.
They also released pix of their suggestion for filling Coach. 3 alternatives:
With all the obese, elderly, generally hobbled and smelling-like-pee people I see around airports, I have to imagine only a small percentage of the passengers would be able to climb into one of these contraptions.
I would absolutely love to see lay flat accommodation become a commonplace, affordable thing for flying. At least from an engineering standpoint, laying flat takes up less room than sitting...$14K just to lay flat for a few hours seems ludicrous, but it probably has a lot to do with what passengers are used to and thus the lack of economy of scale at present for it.
In other news, sodas and peanuts will no longer be offered as you will be placed in a coma before take off.
The seats are not "lie flat" and stacked on top of each other like the bunk beds in a train.
For take off and landing you must be seated in an upright position. This is because the seat belts work better on a person sitting. Also, the foot rests must be retracted so the egress in case of an accident occurs. the seats are also marginally (yet 3 inches is very noticable) wider. In general, I would estimate that the business class seat takes up about 2.5 economy seats. A "last minute" discounted economy ticket to Europe is around $2000. A non-discounted economy ticket is about $4000. A business class ticket is between $3800 (very cheap) and $1000 with a normal price around $7000.
So if you think about it, the B/C is taking up about $5000 worth economy non-discounted space and being charged $7000 which includes drinks, actual food, and better entertainment.
Now, you can get some ticket to Europe under $1000 but you need to be flexible in dates. If you need to be somewhere at a certain time, figure $2000 for a Y ticket.
But it is not as easy as "just stack-em up". Laying down for 9 hours also sucks. The seats move.
So, the airlines are going back to the beginning?
In the early days of the Boeing 247 and the DC-2, they had sleeping berths like on trains.
Wasn't cost effective at all.
And, yes, they had stewardesses.
That was before wimmins roared in numbers too big to ignore.
I just flatly don't do Europe or Asia these days unless my client is willing to pay for first class. 10 hours in a small seat next to a stranger is no my idea of fun and I need to be making like professional athlete levels of cash to undergo that.
I would rather not have someone coughing and sneezing down on me. Dumb idea.
What about when they are darting above you?
Next to me is bad enough...but with my face offset, under and near their butt...
I just flash a special passport and pick the seat I want.
And that's the issue - they want you sitting up for takeoff and landing.
I would much prefer to lie down for nine hours on a plane, than be forced to sit up that long. You can always stand up and stretch in the aisle, but the other way around doesn't work. Obviously, that's a preference not likely shared by most.
In any event, the issue I see at present is that passengers don't really have a choice in standard flights - I'd love to see some bunks, but again the issue is still they want you sitting up for landing. Flip-out jump seats, perhaps? A plane with more space dedicated to passengers and less for baggage?
(I assume you mean ticket prices between $3800 and $10,000, rather than between $3800 and $1000, BTW.)
Great for when a leaky bladder strikes. or the colostomy falls out.
Lol. I had not thought of that so Gak. No thank you.
My God. Can you imagine how quickly Ebola will spread in that configuration?
Bean counters are perverted uncles of lawyers.