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New .357 Glock owner; bring me up-to-date, folks...

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by DJ Niner, Jan 8, 2003.

  1. DJ Niner

    DJ Niner Moderator

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    Picked up a used G32C last weekend, came with three 10-round mags. Also managed to find an NFML G23 mag, a FML G23 mag, and a NFML G22 mag. This is all I will likely need (and darn sure all I can afford at this time!).

    I'm gonna be reading-up on the old posts here, but my main concern right now is ammo: where can I get it online, cheap, a few boxes at a time (buying a case to try it out isn't the way I do things); is there any ammo to avoid, or that you've had problems with; any other notes/helpful hints?

    I fired it for the first time yesterday; was expecting a snappy-lightweight-.40 kind of recoil, but got a LOUD yet very controllable push. I swear it doesn't flip as much as my Glock nines. Initial impression: I LOVE IT!!! :)

    Chalk me up as a new fan. I'm in learning mode now, whatcha got for me?
     
  2. G33

    G33 Frisky! CLM Millennium Member

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    Welcome!
    Natchez has some good sales.
    Based on past reports, S&B is not reliable in the .357 Sig loading.
    YMMV
    Enjoy!

    ;)
     

  3. Screaming .357G

    Screaming .357G 598ci big block

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    I use www.georgia-arms.com for my practice ammo.
    Good cheap fun:)

    Of all the practice ammo I use the speer lawman 125 grain seems to be the most accurate.

    Looking for a carry load...
    Most of us carry the 125 grain speer or proload Gold Dots.
    The winchester ranger T is also pretty nice when you can find at a good price.
     
  4. Screaming .357G

    Screaming .357G 598ci big block

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  5. Catbird

    Catbird loves guns!

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    I have several guns and/or barrels in .357SIG; they are great fun to shoot.

    Off the top of my head, the most intelligent advice I can bestow is:

    BEWARE OF BULLET SETBACK !

    Have fun.
     
  6. DJ Niner

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    So bullet setback is bad? ;f

    Hope that's not the voice of experience I hear...

    So far I have tried Winchester/USA 125 FMJ; same brand 125 JHP (personal protection load); UMC/Remington 125 MC (FMJ); and Cor-Bon 125 JHP. Had one minor hang-up with a Cor-Bon; it was at the end of the session, gun was 250 rounds dirty, maybe had something to do with it? Failure to fire, so I extracted the round; it had a light hit slightly off-center, which usually means the slide failed to close completely and then the firing pin hit finished closing it. Read something familiar here in another post; maybe it's Cor-Bon related, but I will try another hundred rounds or so before I pass judgement on the load.

    Anything else is appreciated....
     
  7. Screaming .357G

    Screaming .357G 598ci big block

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    I dont see the bullet setback being any worse than the .40 S&W.
    I have seen more of the .40's with a set back than any other caliber.
    (funny how those neutred 10mm's keep getting shorter all the time);)


    But anyways the .357 sig can have a problem and I have seen it first hand.
    Dont keep rechambering the round and you should not have problems.
    You can give the bullets a quick thumb/pointer finger test squeeze if you have any doubts.

    Most of the bullets I heard that have problems are older ammo or blazer (aluminum case) although it can happen to any of them.
     
  8. redskyzatknight

    redskyzatknight Glock S&W Kahr

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    i had a batch of CCI about a year ago where i could push the bullet into the case with my thumb and index finger. so far that you could see the rim of the case. thats the only problem i ever had and i still use it for practice. i think it's cheap and pretty clean too. i can't find a walmart anywhere that carries it, so when i run out, i have to throw my 40 barrel in or shoot another gun.
     
  9. Catbird

    Catbird loves guns!

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    Yes, but the subject was .357SIGs. Bullet setback is never a good thing, regardless of caliber. I think bullet setback can occur more easily with the .357SIG because there is less gripping surface between the bullet and the case. YMMV.
     
  10. Screaming .357G

    Screaming .357G 598ci big block

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    Catbird,

    I know that it was about the .357 sig but what Im saying is that it is not really any worse than some other calibers I have shot/owned.

    It seems that some people get really scared when they hear about the .357 sig having a set back.
    Yes it can happen and it has happend to me.

    Am just saying that when a person starts getting into a caliber like .357 sig and hears that it may have a high chance of bullet setback it may or may not scare them off even though it has and can happen to many other calibers.

    I remember a time when the .40 S&W 180 grain was a no-no because of bullet setback and extream case pressure.
    Heck I even heard that the infamous Glock .40 KB's were do to a combonation of bullet setback/unsupported chambers (even though most semi auto pistols dont have a fully supported chamber).

    That always seemed werid to me to hear about people using the mid grain ladings like 155-160-165 to avoid the chance of a set back and high case pressure even though the .40S&W started its life as a 180 grain loading.

    People should keep in mind that some of the ammo companys use a sealant to keep the bullet in place.
    Heck I remember someone on this board has a way to handload the .357 sig case full with the right powder that accualy keeps the bullet from setting back while still keeping it within the pressure limits.

    But for a pic of the .357 sig set back here are two photos of one I had.
    These pics have a normal .357 sig beside of it to compare it to and this is the same bullet before and after a push to see if it would drop down into the case futher.
     
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    Screaming .357G 598ci big block

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    and here is the bullet after a push.
     
  12. Catbird

    Catbird loves guns!

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    Screaming .357G -

    Yes, I understand. We're on the same page. Basically, we (shooters) need to be on the alert for bullet setback with any ammo. I was just trying to stay on topic. :)

    I've even had bullet setback occur with .45 ACPs.

    It's NEVER a good thing.
     
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    Screaming .357G 598ci big block

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    I just hope none of us ever have a bad set back with any ammo.
    Heck we might be Screaming then;P ;);P