I liked my 23 gen 4 so much I sold my XDM 3.8 9mm and bought a new 22 gen 4 and a new 17 gen 4. I ordered the 17 with Truglow Fiber optic with green rear and a red front sight. I shot the 17 today for the first time and I'm really impressed. Great sights, shot flawlessly and very accurately. I liked the XDM and shot it well but I shoot the glocks better. I have a Kahr P9, a Walther PPS 40 and PPK/S. I shoot the Kahr and the PPK/S pretty well but none shoot as well as the glocks. I'm a true believer now. I really like these glocks especially the 17. Anyone else convert the hard way?