new 135 9mm gold dot

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  1. FYRELT

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    any one tried any of these should be a good carry load
     
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    Is it the g2 or original gold dot?


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    I have not used it, because it is, the G2 bullet, and I am not a fan of that. When, I do use GD in a 9mm, It is 124gr +P bonded, or 147gr. Not a fanboy of 'rapid expansion' bullets...! ;)






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    Yeah I’m a fan of the 124+p original it’s in all my glocks


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    Eagerly waiting some ballistic tests on YT. If it proves more consistent than a 124g +P HST I’ll switch over. I love gold dots. I can get them at my LGS in 50 round boxes for 28 bucks


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    I always thought 135gr running 1100fps was a good balance of vel vs weight but I prefer a good jhp. Federal made the hydrashok in that weight but expensive & slower than some 147. I loaded some 135gr gdhpsb to, 1100fps in my g17. Performance in wetpack was very good.
     
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    Hey amigo!
    Hows it going in Kali ?

    Man I agree, the 135gr 'would be' a good deal. But what 'you' said... "I prefer a 'good' JHP..."

    That, is the key here. That G2, is just not in that category, IMO. Wonder why more manufactures don't use that weight with a quality JHP?!?


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    All Gold Dots are bonded.
     
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    The 135gr is used in the Critical Duty and Federal Tactical Bonded, both seem to be well regarded.
     
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    124+P Gold Dots work fine.
     
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    Never said it wasn't 'bonded,' amigo, just said I was not a fan of the G2 bullet. ;)

    Now I must admit, perhaps they have tweaked it, I dunno. It had/has, what Speer called an "elastomer or some such thing, tip," akin to the red polymer stuff Hornady uses, and I am not a fan of either. This makes for some thinner copper at the nose, and more 'rapid expansion,' and that is not for me. The "standard," GD's, do not have this elastomer-poly filled cavity, and the jacked is not as thin at the nose, as the G2, which has to be thinner, to allow the elastomer to work as an 'hydraulic,' same as the polymer tip Hornady does. So on impact, these elastomer-poly filled tips push the pedals back, and open, 'to fast,' for 'my needs,' This reduces penetration. As I said, perhaps it's been redesigned, :dunno: if so, great.



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    My bonded comment was more for clarification, for those reading, who may not know.

    I don’t like the filled tips, either. I understand they are there to help it expand, but in the tests I’ve seen, on the Critical Duty, they don’t expand much. They tend to favor penetration. Even the regular Gold Dots don’t expand nearly as much as HST, Rangers, etc.
     
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    Gotcha! ;)

    Although I am 'penetration,' over expansion, like we're both sayin here, just don't care for the "cavity filled," variety stuff. I'll just stick with the PDX1's, Rangers, and the 'regular' GD's.


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    My issue is they really don't do any better than the XTP, which isn't bad, but I would like my SD bullets to hit 60cal +. The Xtp or Cd wont. The Fed bonded just needs about 100fps more vel. Plus both are kind of expensive compared to HST or SGDHP.
     
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    Filled HP are nothing new, they are not to promote expansion as much as resist a HP clog that retards expansion. So semantics maybe but they do work. If the would design the jacket/cores to expands better, I wouldn't care about the filled HP. Plus it is totally safe to get 1100fps + in a 4" bbl, so why not do that too?
     
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    The Federal Tactical Bonded was designed to be more barrier blind than the others, I believe.

    Here’s an ad, for HST and Tactical Bonded.

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    You can see they place more emphasis on getting through barriers with better jacket integrity (yes, at the expense of some expansion).

    Even with the more limited expansion, the Tactical Bonded still performs very competitively, with the best.
     
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    Yes but for most of us, bonded bullets that are barrier blind isn't a huge issue. Plus as noted, one can easily get 1100fps in 4" bbl so why not? I know that is splitting hairs a bit. I am quite happy with the 124gr+P HST though.
     
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    Quick, informal vote, please: Which would you carry first magazine in a Shield, the 124-grain HST (standard or +P) or the 135-grain Tactical Bonded +P?
     
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    124 +p HST


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    Whichever one I found most reliable and accurate. Three top of the line choices.

    The only bad thing about the Tactical Bonded is it’s availability, at times. If you don’t have a few boxes.