Nevada gun bills

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  1. Grimsi

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    I should clarify a couple of points in SB237. The companion assembly bill (AB268)(which yielded to this one in committee) stated that if the other state required a reciprocity agreement, Nevada would be required to enter into that agreement. SB237 has no such provision. After rereading the senate bill, it doesn't address requirements for Nevada permits to be valid in other states, only that other states permits would be valid in Nevada. We'll have to wait and see of other states start recognizing Nevada as many already have...

    Also, the last sentence of this bill make the provisions of section 5 & 6 (weapon specific to category of weapon) will only apply to permits issued after October 1, 2007. :sad:

    But at least we're on the right track...;)
     

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    SB237 (CCW Bill) passed in the Senate 20 to 1 (even Dina Taxes, I mean Titus voted yea). On to the Assembly for their vote!:thumbsup:

    SB92 (Removes the "Grandfather" clause) passed in the Senate (also 20 - 1), on to the Assembly.:thumbsup:

    AB95 (Prohibits firearm confiscation during emergencies) passed in the Assembly (42 - 0 WOOHOO). Latest approved amendment actually added co-sponsors and nothing else! On to the Senate.:thumbsup:

    Overall a :banana: :banana: :banana:

    John
     
  4. RMTactical

    RMTactical Battle Born CLM

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    I spend a lot of time in Vegas and my family is all there (for now anyways). I may even come back someday, I really hope to see all of this stuff pass!! :)
     
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    This just changes the time you have to register your guns in Vegas. NV residents now will have 72 hours...un frigginbelievable... and vistors have 60 days. Wow what deal!:brickwall:
     
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    No mention made of AB21 huh? That bill would have doubled the cost of a CCW but was defeated. However thanks to our "friends" at the NHP and NCSA we are about to lose our CCW exemption and EVERYONE will have to pay the onerous $25.00 fee for a Nevada background check. It's nothing but legal extortion and de-facto gun registration and we're now working to get Nevada OFF the POC system and just use NICS which is free. If they want to save money get rid of the girls they have sitting if front of computers doing these notoriously slow background checks. That would save Nevada what $100,000/year and about an hour and a half of your time waiting around for them to OK the sale.

    My advice is go out and buy all the guns you want NOW so you won't get tagged.:burn:
     
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    Didn't see this one anywhere. Is there a pending bill or statute to reference? Didn't mention AB21 because it died in committee. I do agree the NSCA has waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much clout in this state. :steamed:
     
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    Care to elaborate?
     
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    Check this out http://www.stillwaterfirearms.org/p...ic&t=183&sid=b665629163fb987b52138d25ba11f941

    This bill as ammended will pass. The original bill would have ELIMINATED gun registration in Clark co. and brought it into line with the rest of the state under NV preemption. I guess NV preemption law doesn't apply to the retards in Clark co. The legislature just caved in to the NCSA. Solution??? Stay out of Clark County.:rofl:
     
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    After going to the legislatures web site and rereading this bill with the latest amendment, I stand corrected. When I originally posted support of SB92, I hadn't read the latest amendment. The NSCA has sabotaged this bill and I can no longer support it. Emails sent to my legislators and sheriff gilespie.

    John
     
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    I have been trying to find out how the NCSA is funded. Is it a non profit organization/corp. Maybe if one or more of you is connected... especially Clark county guys... you can find out. If it's publicly funded they are breaking the law by having a paid lobbyist. If it's a non profit they are breaking the tax laws by lobbying. If they claim private funding but draw their money from each dept they are breaking the law. They can't use taxpayer money for lobbying.

    Man they're despicable. I did learn the president of it is the Sheriff in Clark county. Go figure. I do know that the sheriffs in say Lyon, Churchill, Storey etc don't even know what's going on with the NCSA. They just support it. Smart HUH?
     
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    Me:

    Joe,

    I strongly supported this bill, which is now in the Assembly, until the latest amendment. That amendment, I'm sure pushed for by Sheriff Gillespie and his cronies at the NSCA was in my opinion a poison pill. I can no longer support this bill as amended, and urge you not to do so either.

    John

    Him:

    Mr. John's 26:
    Can you tell me why you do not support the amendment?
    It now requires 60 days of residency before requiring the firearm to be registered.
    The original intent of the bill was to provide relief for sportsmen, vendors, exhibitors who would come to town temporarily, but would get caught up in the prior registration requirement. It would appear that the amendment fixes that issue.

    Regards,
    Dr. Joe Heck
    State Senator
    Clark District 5
    702.614.5900 (District Office)
    775.684.1457 (Legislative Office)
    www.SenatorJoeHeck.com


    Me:

    Joe,

    First, I'd like to say thank you for taking the time to respond to my concern. The way I interpreted the original bill, it would have eliminated the "grandfather" clause that allowed cities and counties to keep ordinances in force if they were enacted prior to June 13, 1989. To quote the original bills Legislative Counsel's Digest "This bill amends that section to include and preempt ordinances or regulations adopted by local governments before June 13, 1989" (emphasis mine). This, it would seem, would have eliminated the requirement to register handguns in Clark County. The latest amendment in essence merely requires Clark County (and other political sub-divisions with 400,000 residents or more) to revise the residency requirements. It does not preemt the ordinance. This is why I can no longer support the bill.

    John's 26

    Him:

    You are correct in the reading of the legislative digest, but the reason for the bill originally, according to the sponsor, was as I stated. Therefore, the bill does accomplish the original goal.
    While I would agree that the need to register handguns in Clark County is unnecessary (its only law-abiding citizens who register and the thugs do not - thus we are only fooling ourselves by thinking this is a deterrent), law enforcement testified that the ability to charge the criminal with an unregistered handgun violation, regardless of the crime, is a valuable enforcement tool.(emphasis mine)

    Regards,

    Dr. Joe Heck
    State Senator
    Clark District 5
    702.614.5900 (District Office)
    775.684.1457 (Legislative Office)
    www.SenatorJoeHeck.com


    So here we have local law enforcement saying "we can't charge you with anything else, so we'll just make an ordinance so we can charge you with something" Pretty scary to say the least!
     
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    Yeah, that is scary...

    but it is nice to see a politician who will take the time to respond to your emails.
     
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    What is the NCSA?
     
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    Thank you John's 26.
     
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    I as well as many other Nevadans have been calling the NSCA the NCSA which will yield nothing if you do a search for these bums. I apologize for the misnomer. The correct term is NSCA - Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs Association which is a 501(c)3 non profit NV corporation. They have a paid lobbyist and several police officers that volunteer to lobby. As far as I know no 501(c)3 corporation can have any political activity and maintain their non profit status. I am also trying to find out how they are funded. If it is by public funds they are breaking the law. You can't have a lobbyist paid for with taxpayer money and you can't have a police officer lobbying while on the clock.

    There was one more onerous piece of crap that got by all of us... SB354. This bill as introduced made the mere possession of a gun on school OR DAY CARE CENTER property a FELONY. We luckily got the felony language removed but it is still a gross misdemeanor to possess a gun on school OR DAY CARE CENTER property. If you're caught you will lose al of your gun rights including your CCW and in my case my FFL. Below is an email I received from Assemblyman Bob Beers stating what the definition of school property is. If your are carrying in your car on the street in front of a school you can be arrested. This one sneaked through and of course you know who was behind it....the NSCA.

    From Assemblyman Bob Beers

    "This bill is another attempt at gun control whereby the innocent have
    their rights infringed while the criminals are given yet another
    offering of unarmed victims.

    I reviewed the opinion poll. It has not been in one of my committees.
    The NRA are flaming mad over this bill. Apparently if a rancher drops
    off a child at school and forgets to remove the rifle from the gun rack, they are an instant criminal. "School Property" is considered the street in front of the school and so a CCW owner driving by the school commits a crime. It would also criminalize anyone stepping in to offer armed defense, other than a police officer, to students under fire in a Columbine situation.

    Assemblyman Bob Beers"
     
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    That sounds pretty bad. We have a lot of that crap here in Illinois.

    Either way be thankful that you have a lot more of your rights honored than we do here in Illinois.
     
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    We are fast catching up to both IL and CA. The problem here in NV is the gun owners are apethetic. They are used to having no gun laws so therefore they think it's going to stay that way. What they forget is Clark County (Vegas) is just an extension of Los Angeles....pure rabid liberal socialists run the show there and since a majority of the people are in Clark most of the politicians come from there. Need I say more. Big Osama Obama and Billary follwing there. Enough to make one gag.
     
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    Did the legislation involving reciprocity & classification of hanguns on permits (revolver/semi-auto) also change how long non-resident CCW permits are good for?

    I was informed that it went from 3 years to 5 years.