Need help with G34 Gen5

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  1. Paul73

    Paul73

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    Could you pls point me to the part URL - what shop/where - it may be the easier way for me, i feel. Was it a complete RSA assembly or you had to tinker with the stock one? It does not look like it is made to have the spring replaced in it easily, from what i can see.
     
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    Check out gunsprings.com
     

  3. Paul73

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    it is not that simple -
    https://www.gunsprings.com/GLOCK ®/cID1/mID5/dID116#123

    Recoil Guide Rod & Spring Combination
    Recoil and guide rod combinations offer a recoil spring and a Wolff guide rod together at a savings over individual prices. Please refer to recoil springs above for desired ratings.

    Note: Wolff guide rod and recoil spring combinations are non-captive.
    Note: SKU's 500xx, 501xx and 502xx are NOT for use in Generation 4 & 5 models.


    and for the G17/34 the only choice they show are 500xx.

    That is why i asked above for the exact part that is proven to work...
     
  4. harold63

    harold63 I'm not retired

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    That's the Federal. It's 1160 fps where the WWB is 137 pf - 1190 fps.
     
  5. OdinIII

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    I run this but it is full length and would look odd with the G17 slide. Honestly the brand doesn’t matter. I personally like uncaptured rods but I’m sure others disagree. I used to run Jager SS rods in Gen3’s.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I was running a 13# spring on a Lone wolf captured guide rod in my Gen4 34. Added a Holosun 507c and let a buddy start using it and he started having cycling issues. Swapped in a 11# spring and it runs great now. I think part of the issue was his lighter grip vs mine, but was also the added weight of the red dot. Running my reloaded 147gr ammo with power factor of 129.

    I'd recommend getting the 13# and making sure you have a firm grip on the gun. (I would actually get the 11,13 and 15# springs while I was ordering)

    A couple of options to look at:
    https://www.glockmeister.com/Glockm...-Rod-For-Gen5-17-34-Only/productinfo/G5SS17C/

    https://www.glockmeister.com/Full-Size-GLOCKs/products/228/


    Or

    http://www.jagerproducts.com/index....ducts_id=116&zenid=tk1pvm3dnbm6v227b07stftug0

    http://www.jagerproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=38&products_id=101
     
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  7. IAhunter

    IAhunter Venor ergo sum

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    I have only had my G34.5 for a few months and I just busted past the first 1000 rounds at a match today. It eats 115 grain Browning and Aguila ball well thus far. The Aguila is real weak (slow and accurate), but I tend to have a real firm grip and my brass generally flies far. The only malfunctions I’ve had were a few failure to lock the slide back after the last round (Browning) and one bad primer (also Browning). I have the slide lock issue narrowed down to one magazine and will replace the follower tomorrow. Otherwise it does well with 115 grainers. Which is all I can get right now.
     
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    So, a quick update - i ran to the ranch on the lunch break, got with me 30 rounds of this
    https://www.velocityammosales.com/products/9mm-red-army-standard-elite-124-grain-fmj
    and it went through all of it without a single glitch.
    then loaded 5 rounds of the 'venom' - today, with the leupold mounted on the slide, it did not even eject brass properly, it was getting stuck there every time, 5 out of 5. and i was gripping the gun with a strangulation force during that - no use.

    then I ran 5 more loads of the red army with my usual grip - and no issues. that is all for now, will wait for springs to come and see what will that do.
     
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    So you realize it's crappy ammo causing the problem? And the stock springs should be OK?
     
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    this is not a very constructive way to make a statement. if you`d looked above in the thread the issue was with the _fact_ that this - yes - crappy - ammo did cycle G17 slide with no issues.
    but, nethertheless, it is what it is. i still want to make this g34 to cycle a 115gr ammo fine, so, will see.
     
  12. Borg Warner

    Borg Warner Free Full Clip!

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    Part of the problem is that it's a "Build" and not a factory gun, but I hope you figure it out.
     
  13. Paul73

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    Thanks to the MA regulations no one can buy a factory gun. You can only get a complete slide and a complete frame separately, no matter what. It is what it is.
    And it should not matter at all in the G17/34 scenario as factory frames are identical there.
     
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    Ammo's still the culprit.
     
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    Its a gen 5 g34 set up on a gen 5 model 17 frame. So for all purposes its a g34.5?
     
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    Not sure what you mean by a .5 :) but, yes, it is a usual gen5 g34. Frames are same on g17/34.
     
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    FWIW, Ive got a G34.5 and it wouldn't cycle some low powered 115 stuff I made up that my G19.4 eats up. Its a bone stock gun. Loaded up some heavier charges behind 115 grainers, ansd no issues. My guess is the spring. Im eventually going to an uncaptured tungsten rod with a selection of springs. this will be a range toy and gamer gun only.
     
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    Schmeggy - same experience here. My G19.5 eats the same reloads with no issues that choked in my G34.5.
     
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    I've shot tons of 115, 124 and 147 thru my G34.5 with no problems at all. Stock, out of the box.

    Its a glock....they eat standard ammo all day long.
     
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    No it will is not. Good conversation, anyway. I hope to test 13# and 11# springs soon enough to confirm.
     
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