Need help with G34 Gen5

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  1. Toocool45

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    Gen 3, and earlier 1 flat wire spring. Gen 5 and Gen 4 multi spring set ups.
     
  2. Paul73

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    any idea if this 'captured' one - for $149 is what is needed?
    https://www.glockstore.com/Pure-Tun...ustcol7=2&custcol8=13&custcol9=6&custcol20=59

    i probably will need to consult on it with my local shop before sending $149 out.
    quite oddly it shows there a selection for Gen5 and shows single spring - NOT a multi spring setup.

    i also realized in this gen5 rsa part i have - the spring is not really easily replaceable. bummer.
     

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    I sure would be curious what the slide weight is on a 34 Gen 4 vs a 34 Gen 5 vs 17 Gen 5

    The Gen 4 34 slide has the top cutout, but the Gen 5 slide has some internal relief cuts.
     
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    Dude cancel that order ain’t no rsa worth that!
     
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    with a bolted in DeltaPointPro my gen5 slide is 557g. just checked. do not want to unbolt the scope now - i just zeroid it.

    the G17 Gen5 complete slide is 489g.
     
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    i did not order the $149 part - springs were just $9.99. i had to cancel it anyway.

    as of $149 not been worth - if it IS a solution - i have a $1000 slide assembly i cannot use properly now. an additional $149 is only a fraction here. IF - IF it will help.

    well, thanks to all of you, it got my anxiety a bit subdued - i was really feeling low today after all those happenings. will try to sort it out tomorrow.
     
  7. harold63

    harold63 I'm not retired

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    Don't order anything 'till you try a different brand of ammo. I've never heard of Venom, but as I said, the claim is over 1200 fps. With a good grip, that should cycle the slide, even with the RMR. It's possible the ammo won't crono that high and you'd need to try a well respected ammo maker. I just don't see how a lighter spring is going to push it into battery when the 17lb won't unless the slide is going back far enough to eject, but still short stroking.
     
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    as of $149 not been worth - ifit IS a solution - i have a$1000 slide assembly i cannot use properly now. an additional $149 is only a fraction here. IF- IF it will help.
    Wanna buy a bridge?
     
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    i really wanted it to work 'as is'- i have several buddies who have gen 3 and gen4 G34 in a similar configuration and have no issues at all. all this was like a bad dream today. dunno what gives. just a bad luck.
     
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    That's a little over 2oz. It's a diff but it isn't terrible. I'd try a diff brand of ammo before I did anything else. Leave the RMR on. Concentrate on a good grip.

    WWB is good target ammo rated at 1190 fps and is 115 gr. Try that.
     
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    i will definitely do that tomorrow.

    the only one i have now on hand is this one:
    https://www.outdoorlimited.com/hand...am3295-124-grain-full-metal-jacket-50-rounds/

    not from that store - but - same exact box. amazing, i had it for 60c per 50 rounds - now it is already 70c. damn...

    it just pains me that i got 350 more rounds more of that venom junk and cannot use it where i want it. but, it is what it is.

    ammo now is extremely scarce and i had a habit to go over 200 rounds per session, so, i do need to alter my habits until it gets back to 13c-15c per round.
     
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    to get it to the context - i am in the state of MA - we have only a 2-3 online vendors shipping in here. in gun shops right now there is a quota of a single 20round box per customer and all ammo, not matter the junkiness of it is at $1 per round. all walmarts in 100 mile range are out of stock.

    my father in law sits on the 10k rounds pile and is not sharing. :) i do not blame him much, but, damn!

    so, the online resources now are quite scarce - beggars cannot be choosers. i still hope red army will work. it is a 65c per round ammo, so, i hope should be bit better.
     
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    Choke down on your grip and see if you can get it to function with the 115 gr stuff. No joke, my twin daughters had to work on their grip to shoot a Gen 4 34 with one hand, and they been shooting for years. Their 1911's were very forgiving.

    The 124 gr looks to be 1150 fps putting it at +P and a PF of 143. If that doesn't cycle it then I'm out of ideas.
     
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    Trade him some of the 115 gr Czech stuff. At least he'll still have 10,000 rds.
     
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    i will go to test it tomorrow. thx for your help - it is greatly appreciated! i hope it will work..
     
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    no, he is smart. :) all i can do now is so hate myself for not stocking up when it was still available. may be after elections it all will subdue, but, i doubt it. will see.
     
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    Win 9mm NATO is my go to break in ammo.

    Now only if you can find some at a decent price ;-)
     
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    My Gen 4 34 slide with TruGlo Fiber Optic Pro sights is 376.7 grams.

    FYI, the Gen 4 34 slide has the top slide cutout.

    My Gen 5 17 slide with TruGlo TFX sights is 367.7 grams

    My Gen 5 19 FS MOS with Trijicon RMR is 372.5 grams
     
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    I scored 450 rds of it maybe a year ago. Looks like I paid just over 18 cents a round for it. Cheapest I see it, now, is 56 cents a round with a big ass 'out of stock' at the bottom.
     
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    I have 2 G34.5’s. With 147’s at ~128 PF and the factory RSA, neither would function perfectly with my daughter shooting with no dot and neither would make it through 2-3 mags with me shooting after I added the Deltapoint Pros. Both guns were reliable with 115 gr WWB and Federal ammo even with the dots. I don’t remember which brand but the one I tested was ~133 PF.

    I’ve since switched to a 13 lb ISMI spring and expensive guide rods and both guns are 100%.
     
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