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ND while Cleaning a Glock?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by gunowner1, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. gunowner1

    gunowner1

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    I just heard from my sister that my nephews brother in law shot himself while cleaning his Glock. He died from the injury. My sister sent me a text asking me to be very careful when handlig my guns. I assured her that I am as safe as I can be.
    I know anything is possible but I just don't get how he managed to kill himself with an N.D. I don't have any details because the guy lived in P.A. and I don't have anybody locally who would have any knowledge of the scene and what happened.
    Anybody ever heard stories of people killing themselves while cleaning their gun? Only thing I can think of is that he shot his femural artery and bled out.
     
  2. jtmac

    jtmac Señor Member

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    Taking down a Glock involves pulling the trigger. If someone was careless... well, it can happen.

    ALWAYS double check to make sure your weapon is clear. ALWAYS make sure the business end is pointed somewhere relatively harmless even when you "know" it's unloaded.
     

  3. rick458

    rick458 USS Texas BB-35

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    It is Never unloaded until you look THROUGH the chamber (from the ejection port )
     
  4. gunowner1

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    Trust me I follow this procedure every time I clean one of my guns. I shoot every week and clean every gun when I'm done. I am going to try and find out how much experience he had with firearms but it's going to be difficult cause he lived faraway and asking his sister details may seem kind of insensitive.
     
  5. Gallium

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    Sorry to hear this.
     
  6. concretefuzzynuts

    concretefuzzynuts Brew Crew

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    I knew a guy who hung himself with a rope.

    The paper described it as a "boating accident".
     
  7. Henry's Dad

    Henry's Dad woof, woof

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    gunowner1,

    Sorry to hear this. Can you tell me where in PA this happened? I'd like to check the local media to see if (and more importantly perhaps, how) it has been covered. The media often likes to exploit these types of incidents for agenda-setting. I'll be happy to share with you anything I find.

    Again, sorry for your loss.
     
  8. Andy W

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    It should be impossible to do while in the act of cleaning it. I never understood this. "Oh he was cleaning the gun when it went off." Bull****. If you're cleaning it, it's in ****ing pieces. I think most of the time when someone NDs a firearm, it's a voluntary pull of the trigger that's intended to be a dry fire but that's not how it turns out. Everyone I know who has had an ND intentionally pulled the trigger without first checking to make sure the weapon was unloaded. It's never been a case of the old "going off while cleaning it" story.
     
  9. greatwun

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    Im sorry to hear about that. I too wonder how it was possible to happen if following the proper procedures.

    I remember reading a year or so ago about a young man who was showing his family his new Glock and accidentally shot himself. Very Tragic. Exactly why you always treat every gun as if it were loaded.


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  10. unit1069

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    There is a lot of missing information as others have already pointed out.

    Was your nephew's BIL depressed ... intoxicated ... experiencing marital difficulties ... etc?
     
  11. sourdough44

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    One never should be daydreaming while handling/cleaning guns. Then whenever you do pull the trigger, for any reason, it should be pointed in a safe direction. That simple habit pattern should keep anyone safe.
     
  12. airmotive

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    First three steps in cleaning a Glock:
    Drop the mag; rack the slide; pull the trigger.

    I've done it hundreds of times.

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    It only takes once.
     
  13. eruby

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    Grammer police alert - Curtains are hung, people are hanged - :supergrin:

    Sorry to read about this death OP.
     
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  14. dherloc

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    You forgot the sound effect half way through your list...and the part where you have to go clean your drawers out.
     
  15. coqui33

    coqui33 NRA Instructor

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    This. Newsmedia will report a suicide, or not, depending on the family's wishes.
     
  16. di11igaf

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    Exactly, a friend who was in my apprentiship school with me for 5 years shot himself right before we finished. He was always a little different, but a good guy. It was reported as a ND, but everyone, including his family knew the truth. It's hard to accidentally shoot yourself point blank in the chest with a revolver while cleaning it.(this was the story)
     
  17. Lowjiber

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    My wife's father killed himself while "cleaning" a bolt action rifle. He was a depressed, unemployed, alcoholic who had the "accident" while cleaning his gun in bed.

    The local newspaper did not report it as a suicide, and his mother (now 89) still claims that it was an accident.
     
  18. lethal tupperwa

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    remove the magazine,

    rack the slide 3 times

    lock open, look in the chamber,stick your finger

    in to see if it is empty!

    a darkened case in poor light can be overlooked.

    Then point in a SAFE direction, release slide and

    pull the trigger.
     
  19. Bren

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    Gun cleaning accident, is often family-speak for suicide. However, you do have to pull the trigger to take it apart, so if you don't have the sense to empty the chamber first, you can shoot yourself.
     
  20. Fear Night

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    I'm not sure how it's possible.

    Even if you forgot to check the chamber, and just went straight to pull the trigger for takedown, you wouldn't be pointing the gun at yourself. Nobody is going to point the gun at their head, chest, or leg and pull the trigger without the intention of doing so.

    Like others have said in this thread, dying while cleaning a gun is just a nice way of presenting a suicide to others.