Navy sailor struck by propeller, killed on carrier flight deck, officials say

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  1. LEO/Dad

    LEO/Dad Navy Veteran

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    I just can't imagine how bad this was. Turbine powered prop had to be really turning the rpms. Sailor dead, other sailors witnessing the accident. Prayers go out to the family.

    Mr. Naglak was an E-2. Enlisted in April 2017. The flight deck of an aircraft carrier is one of the most dangerous places you can work. He didn't have a lot of experience working there. I hope, as it will, that this accident will be fully investigated, and steps taken to help prevent it from happening again.

    I spent four years in the Navy, and on the job training is experienced each and every day. If you don't learn, you don't advance in your rate. As you learn, in my experiences, your actions were overseen by a senior enlisted petty officer. If you screwed up, you were corrected on the spot, and told the correct way of doing the task.

    This was a terrible accident. I know the Navy will find the cause, and take steps to help prevent it from happening again.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/1...led-on-carrier-flight-deck-officials-say.html
     
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  2. mdlott

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    Link?
     
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    My brother in law retired from the Navy as a master chief. He said the big carriers lose one or two folks on every long cruise. Back in the 80s and 90s anyway. Pilots were pretty frequent casualties.
     
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    Sad story. Flight deck is very dangerous place to be for anyone and especially an airman apprentice.
     
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    So were greenshirts getting sucked into engine intakes.
     
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    Did 7 during Nam. Forrestal and Independence. Flight deck dangerous?
    Launch officer raises his head too soon and gets clipped by the wing of a launching aircraft. Was also a guy walked into a prop of an E2 back then. Hard the believe the “hummer“ has been in service more than 50 years. Also some film of one guy who was sucked into an intake. It happened so very fast. Another blown off the deck by jet blast.
    Yep. Dangerous.


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    Damn that’s a lot of sailors. I would have never have guessed that.
     
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    Those lads who work on carriers give me hope for America's future. Not all of them come from stellar backgrounds, but with some desire and discipline they prove themselves to be first rate people and first rate Americans. There is good in most people, if they can just find their way to an environment where it can flourish. One place it can flourish is on a carrier, 5,000 miles from home.
     
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    My father was in th US Army Air Corp during WWII. He once told me about the time he witnessed a man walk into a propeller on a C-47. Dad said it was quick and messy.
     
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    My FIL was engineer on a PBY cat. He said he stood behind engines, on upper surface as they started engines with fire extinguisher. One time he went forward between running props. IIRC 20" between blades.
    He got chewed out for that.

    Edit to add. He told me this at Fantasy of flight in FL. While we looked at a PBY.
     
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    I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. R.I.P. sailor.
     
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    Thankfully, he likely never knew what hit him.
     
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    Bad place. My dad was on the arresting gear crew on the USS Philippine Sea, CV47. Got stuck in the galley his first few weeks aboard. Got to move to the flight deck when a job opened up. Sadly it was because a cable snapped and cut his predecessor in half.
     
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    If a prop is turning it can be deadly, doesn't matter what the RPM is.
     
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    God that sucks. Gotta be aware of where the spinning props are at all times! They are not forgiving.
     
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    God bless our military.
     
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    He's damn lucky he didn't get chewed up rather than chewed out...:eek:
     
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    Fright [Yes, intentional] Deck on Aircraft Carrier dangerous, YES. Hell yes.
    It is consistently rated as the top 1 or 2 most dangerous jobs in the world.

    It is only by the grace of Almighty God I m typing this now.

    I did 3 Med cruises on the Saratoga CV60, I fueled airplanes, purple shirt V4 div.
    Spent a lot of time on the roof. At night in the pouring rain, with the birds turning [idling] at times, dragging a fuel hose, under planes to get to who needs fuel. Your insides vibrate.

    I know a little on this subject, first hand information here.

    First, It is not unusual for an AA [E-2] person to be working on the flight deck. The non-rates, E1-E3 are the grunts so to speak. They make ships go.


    Second, you have a series of qualifications you have to go thru before you are 'officially' released to work the deck.

    Third, Generally only Air Dept personnel are permitted on the deck during flight operations.
    If he was not in the air dept he should have been escorted. OR not there at all!!
    All anyone has to do is go thru a few doors and there you are.

    Forth, When any bird id turning there are people around the plane doing various jobs-this INCLUDES a safety person observing.

    There are many more variables/thoughts/facts surrounding this that haven't come out yet.

    It is sad for this sailor and his loved ones-tragic.

    It could have been intentional or just a dreadful accident.

    Rest assured this will be investigated and reviewed several times.

    A death on the flight deck is typically not common because of the INTENSIVE training required.

    Nor are they uncommon, most often in todays world it is equipment failure/fire.
     
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