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Name that car, part II

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Rabbi, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    Qvale Mangusta. What a turd.
     
  2. MadMonkey

    MadMonkey Spershul Furces

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    Darnit. I thought that one was rare enough (and ugly enough) that nobody would know/care :faint:
     

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    Qvale Mangusta

    Now the original De Tomaso Mangusta and De Tomaso Pantera are awesome cars and i would love one.
     
  4. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    In general, you are going to have to get pretty obscure to "get me." Outside of one offs (and not many of them) if it was made and sold through a dealer network, the chances are high I will know it.

    ....you are going to have to get biblical, like finding Moses car to "get" Bill...and even then, he probably did the first oil change in the thing and had to chisel the new tires for it out of Jerusalem stone himself!
     
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  5. Bill Powell

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    The problem with the 220 is finding one that actually runs. I put a clutch in ours. couldn't depend on it to run, had heating issues.

    Sure is sexy looking, though. Nothing wrong with that aa v-12 wouldn't cure.
     
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    There have been hundreds and hundreds of British car company's. Most of the common makes people would know, but there are some really obscure ones out there.
     
  7. Bill Powell

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    I'm so old I remember when sand was still a rock.
     
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    OK, I was wrong. But, it's ugly for a Ferrari. And that color - yech.
     
  9. JMS

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    True, the wheels also gave it away. It looked more like a 360 mashup than anything else. Woof.

    If you look carefully you can also the the Pininfarina badge on the side.
     
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  10. DanaT

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    So Bill, you may be the one person who knows obscure enough car history (this is a compliment) to shed some light on a debate.

    It is claimed that Ferarri stole the "prancing horse" for Stuttgart (Porsche). It is claimed that the during the war, there was a german plane shot down and the pilot somehow had a flag/emblem from Stuttgart

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    Stuttgart had used the Prancing horse long before Ferrari was even thought about.

    It is rumored that Ferrari used the horse intended to be an insult towards the german auto manufacturers in Stuttgart and that they had downed a plane.

    Not sure how true any of this is..but is amazing that Ferrari uses a symbol so close to Stuttgart's symbol. Even more amazing is Stuttgart roughly translates to "stallion stables" and scuderia is roughly translate to "stables"

    Sort of interesting??
     
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    This was the story I always heard http://www.fastcodesign.com/1665054/the-insane-story-behind-ferraris-famed-prancing-horse-logo-video
     
  12. Bill Powell

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    I've fortunate through working with cars to meet some very interesting people. I've heard both versions of the story and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Phil Hill told me this version, the fighter pilot version. For many years Scuderia Ferrari's job was to make Alfa Romeos go fast. Almost adozen years after he was given permission he put it on his cars for the 24 hr Spa (I believe.) That was twenty years before Porsche existed as a car company

    Porsche was supposed to have taken the horse from the Stuttgart cety emblem. I don't think anyone stole anything from anyone.
     
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    It is very clear they did that.

    Look at the Flag from the state of Wuerrtemberg

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    The Porsche logo is simply the coat of arms used on that flag with the coat of arms from stuttgart in the middle of it.

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  14. Bill Powell

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    If anyone did it was Porsche. Ferrari was using the horse twenty years before Porsche existed.

    Why couldn't couldn't it be coincidence?

    If there was any thievery done it was done it was done by the fighter pilot's family. I've never heard of any kind of fued over it.
     
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    Porsches is very clear. The coat of arms from stuttgart on top of that from wuerttemberg.

    I heard at Porsche they claim Ferrari stole the prancing horse from stuttgart ( not Porsche). So there is some level of fued.


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    If that's true Porsche had no more right to the horse than Ferrari. Porsche was born in the Czech Republic.
     
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    Neither one has more or less right...it's just interesting that Ferrari needs to use the coat of arms from Stuttgart. :)

    You don't want to start about czech /Poland/germany. It's like sued-Tirol / Italy question today. Many think that much of northern europe is prussian....last time that ended badly


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  18. Bill Powell

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    I don't really care. I was just making conversation. It's kind of like arguing over the origin of the swastika. There's a hundred different answers and they're all right.
     
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    This one is probably an easy one but I don't know what it is. I snapped a pic of it a couple of months ago in Greenwich. Almost looks some kind of kit car. Ugly little thing.

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  20. Rabbi

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    Smart car roadster.