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Only if said family allows it. Junkie family member? Cut em off! It’s difficult but it is the best thing for everyone. I did it and lo and behold that person is now years sober.
Worked with my brothers kid. Into alcohol and drugs. Stole a couple thousand dollars from his dad. Dad said straighten up, or I'll put you in jail.

He got into some kind of enlistment deal in the Army where they drug tested him every time he turned around. Spent 12 years in Army, three tours in the Sandbox, hit with 3 IED's. Not seriously physically injured, but has PTSD.

Got out medically, used GI bill for more education. Doing well today.
 

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Interesting reads in this thread.

My eldest son is 41, almost 42. Had a respectable life, but started with "recreational " drug usage 15 years ago and moved to heroin about 5 years ago. Wife was smart enough to bail out with one of my grandsons. Constantly lying, stealing from family and others, and got to the point of homelessness. I hadn't spoken with him in about 2 years. He hasn't seen his child in well over that.

He contacted me last month seeking help. He has now completed detox and is currently in a month long residential rehab program. We're working now on placement in a longer term rehab facility.

What will happen? Who knows, no guarantees, and relapse is going to be always possible. He's got a long way to go and has to re-earn all the trust he's squandered.

My love for him is unconditional, my support for his rehabilitation is not.
 

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My wife's cousins grew up together in a semi-suburban community and they were very close. There were 2 brothers and one of them grew up rough. In jail a lot or on probation. The other was a good family man, raised 2 kids right and had a great life as a car salesman. He got commendations all the time from this particular company and did a lot of community stuff for free on his spare time.
In the last year he has lost a great paying job, kicked his wife of more than 30 years out on the street. What a turn around from what he once was. This guy has got to be in his mid 50's and I can't for the life of me figure out what the hell went wrong in his mind.
I hate this crap the dope dealers are putting out on the street that can get people so hooked up that they just go freaking upside down in their life.
/rant off
One of my cousin's abandoned her semi-wealthy husband and two kids and became a porn star for a while. Don't know what get's into people's heads sometimes.

Yes, she is hot.
No I won't tell you who she is.

I think sanity has returned and she is living with my aunt now.
 

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One of my cousin's abandoned her semi-wealthy husband and two kids and became a porn star for a while. Don't know what get's into people's heads sometimes.

Yes, she is hot.
No I won't tell you who she is.

I think sanity has returned and she is living with my aunt now.
This post is worthless without pics....

Just sayin.
 

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Interesting reads in this thread.

My eldest son is 41, almost 42. Had a respectable life, but started with "recreational " drug usage 15 years ago and moved to heroin about 5 years ago. Wife was smart enough to bail out with one of my grandsons. Constantly lying, stealing from family and others, and got to the point of homelessness. I hadn't spoken with him in about 2 years. He hasn't seen his child in well over that.

He contacted me last month seeking help. He has now completed detox and is currently in a month long residential rehab program. We're working now on placement in a longer term rehab facility.

What will happen? Who knows, no guarantees, and relapse is going to be always possible. He's got a long way to go and has to re-earn all the trust he's squandered.

My love for him is unconditional, my support for his rehabilitation is not.
Man that sucks...

Sorry to hear that you have to consider such things. As a father of five, 3 of which are adults, I still worry about them daily, and as far as I know, none of them have a heroin habit. I truly hope he gets things turned around, for his sake and for yours.
 

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Interesting reads in this thread.

My eldest son is 41, almost 42. Had a respectable life, but started with "recreational " drug usage 15 years ago and moved to heroin about 5 years ago. Wife was smart enough to bail out with one of my grandsons. Constantly lying, stealing from family and others, and got to the point of homelessness. I hadn't spoken with him in about 2 years. He hasn't seen his child in well over that.

He contacted me last month seeking help. He has now completed detox and is currently in a month long residential rehab program. We're working now on placement in a longer term rehab facility.

What will happen? Who knows, no guarantees, and relapse is going to be always possible. He's got a long way to go and has to re-earn all the trust he's squandered.

My love for him is unconditional, my support for his rehabilitation is not.
Man that's rough. I don't know what to say, other than good luck, hope it goes as well as it can.
 

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Phillip Seymour Hoffman was clean for twenty years, had everything in the world...
And then bam, died with a needle in his arm.

The physical withdrawal is a bad thing, but people get through it, get out, get free...

Just to go right back to it, years later sometimes...
 

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Agreed. But the dealers selling "the good stuff" isn't helping



Dealers are 1/2 the problem, if no buyers the Dealer would do something else to pay bills.

You can not force a person to stop something like drugs, alcohol, or over eating, they must want to stop first.

If they truly want to quit, they will with work.

If you want to walk a mile, it's possible a step at a time, until you hit the mile.


Some people only talk, others do!
 

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Dealers are no different than so many states.

They need money, have no way to raise it, so they sell drugs.

Look at how many states are selling legalized marijuana plans to the people based on how much taxes it will bring in.

Same, same, all same, only the provider goes from being a "dealer" to the "state".
 

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Man that sucks...

Sorry to hear that you have to consider such things. As a father of five, 3 of which are adults, I still worry about them daily, and as far as I know, none of them have a heroin habit. I truly hope he gets things turned around, for his sake and for yours.

Thanks for your thoughts but please don't worry about "my sake ". You have to do Tough Love with an addict. And stick to it.

He could emerge with the Gold Seal of Rehab Approval tattooed on his forehead and I'll verify EVERY word from his mouth for a long time yet. And I'll have my hand on my wallet while I do it. That bridge was burned so long ago that it's no longer viewable in the rearview mirror.

That's what I meant by my love being unconditional, but my support is most definitely not.

And yes, it does suck. :)
 

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Dealers are 1/2 the problem, if no buyers the Dealer would do something else to pay bills.

You can not force a person to stop something like drugs, alcohol, or over eating, they must want to stop first.

If they truly want to quit, they will with work.

If you want to walk a mile, it's possible a step at a time, until you hit the mile.


Some people only talk, others do!
Exactly.
 

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I hate this crap the dope dealers are putting out on the street that can get people so hooked up that they just go freaking upside down in their life.
He could have walked away the first time he was offered drugs. He didn't. Instead he said I will give it a try. It's on him.
 

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Dealers are no different than so many states.

They need money, have no way to raise it, so they sell drugs.

Look at how many states are selling legalized marijuana plans to the people based on how much taxes it will bring in.

Same, same, all same, only the provider goes from being a "dealer" to the "state".
A beer is not a joint is not fentanyl is not a cigarette is not a cup of coffee is not a magic mushroom...

The human race is not and will not ever be drug free. Each substance needs its own response..

For opiates and meth, selling that poison to another human being is morally reprehensible...
I don't know WHAT the answer is, but I know that....
But Heck, one can make a convincing argument that the state, selling the **** for the pennies a dose that it actually costs might be beneficial...
It would certainly cause a bunch of low lifes to be suddenly unemployed.
 

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He could have walked away the first time he was offered drugs. He didn't. Instead he said I will give it a try. It's on him.

Young people sometime do really stupid thing because their parent did not parent. They did not do s*** to teach the kids right from wrong. So their children they gave birth too have no road map to follow in life. I have a step neace & nephew, if you met their kids, you would say. Those kids are the reason some animals eat their young.

Add to that some kids are Nuckelheads, and are just followers. They know their buddy is going to stick up a 7-11's for some extra cash, they just go along to watch. Cops catch the robber - gunmen, all go to jail.

It's is hard for a kids to walk away from troble, doing drugs just once, because off peep pressure.

I am not making excuses, just stating some simple facts.
 

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One of the reasons Singapore has few problems with illeagle drug, is the penalty for pocession, trafficing, selling is not like the good old USA slap on wrist, and being to don't do it again.

Let's say most offender who get caught, don't do it a second time.
 

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It's is hard for a kids to walk away from troble, doing drugs just once, because off peep pressure.
It only takes one time for some to ruin their lives.

When I was living overseas, hashish (hash) was everywhere. The teenage kids on base who smoked knew where to get it. I was dating a girl at the time and her brother smoked it almost on a daily basis. He would offer it to his sister and me and we always said no thanks. I have never had any inclination to take illegal drugs.

The penalty for getting caught on base was sever. The penalty for getting caught off base.....well, lets just say you didn't want to get caught off base.
 
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Young people sometime do really stupid thing because their parent did not parent. They did not do s*** to teach the kids right from wrong. So their children they gave birth too have no road map to follow in life. I have a step neace & nephew, if you met their kids, you would say. Those kids are the reason some animals eat their young.

Add to that some kids are Nuckelheads, and are just followers. They know their buddy is going to stick up a 7-11's for some extra cash, they just go along to watch. Cops catch the robber - gunmen, all go to jail.

It's is hard for a kids to walk away from troble, doing drugs just once, because off peep pressure.

I am not making excuses, just stating some simple facts.
Are you saying @Gray Dood is a bad parent?
 
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