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My very first solo traffic stop for speeding...

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Panzergrenadier1979, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. Panzergrenadier1979

    Panzergrenadier1979 Keystone Cop

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    Had Speed Timing Device training this past weekend (no radar for us lowly municipal cops in PA).

    Anyway....

    My VERY FIRST traffic stop for speeding turns out to have a warrant and a marijuana pipe. :supergrin:
     
  2. Pepper45

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    Very nice. You've discovered why I work a bunch of traffic. It's like playing the lottery, sometimes all you get out of it is a ticket, other times, JACKPOT!!
     

  3. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

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    Has there been any real movement on the radar front for you PA guys in the last year or two? Efforts to fix this ridiculous law were reported on a year or two ago but I never heard an update.
     
  4. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

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    Good going on the find.:thumbsup:
     
  5. Steve in PA

    Steve in PA

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    You could hear a pin drop.................

    Haven't heard of any movement............doubt there ever will be.
     
  6. silverado_mick

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    Only the grey god's (PSP) are worthy of running radar in PA.

    You know you've been pulled over by a Trooper when you look in your mirror to watch his approach and he's hovering about 6in off the ground and the air around him glows.

    Us lowly municipal guys just can't compete.

    To the OP good job and stay observant. There's so much stuff in people's cars it's not even funny, all you have to do is notice it to get in there and get it.
     
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  7. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    Traffic can be very fun. Just keep digging, you will always find something.
     
  8. Panzergrenadier1979

    Panzergrenadier1979 Keystone Cop

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    I'm just a dumb rookie cop, but since I'm not a PA native, I do have an outsiders point-of-view. The academy was truly an eye-opening experience for me. I was very surprised at how the Commonwealth of PA seems to be run in a very antiquated way; revolving around the condensing of power at both the top of the ladder (PA State Police) and at the very bottom (tiny 1/2 sq mile boroughs whose police dept. consists of a police chief and a single patrolman).

    Regarding the use (or, complete absence of use) of radar by municipal cops, I will say that on the very first day of the academy the resentment of our instructors towards the PSP was very evident. Later, I would see that this resentment was openly displayed by any officer who had been a cop for more then 15 years. It seems that radar use was just the tip of the iceberg. The more we studied the law in class, the more confused I became. I tried to talk to relatives of mine who are cops in VA and they became even more confused then I was. There seems to be no answer other then the Big Dog (PSP leadership/PA legislature) feeling that it is extremely important to keep the Little Dog (Township/Borough/City officers) firmly in their place. Maybe I'm naive enough to think that we are all brother/sister cops? :dunno: I have nothing against any State Trooper, I do think that it is sad that local officers are regarded as less-then-real police.

    My own personal theory is that municipal cops will be permitted to use radar ONLY if there is some major technological breakthrough in speed detection that renders radar obsolete. I could see PSP & the PA legislature relaxing their grip and permitting municipal PDs to use the old radar units but not the new technology. This would "satisfy" the local cops and allow the State Police to maintain their elite status.

    Anyway, (I didn't mean for this to become a radar usage in PA thread) I think I just became a big fan of running traffic; lots of goodies to find. :cool:
     
  9. ctaggart

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    I'm also a huge traffic guy here in PA. Radar sure would be a nice tool. I'm limited to lines on the road and a Robic SC-808 stopwatch or ENRADD if I want to run speed. Total B.S.

    Edited to add:

    Nice job to the OP by the way!
     
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    What about laser? Does anyone in PA use it? I am amazed at the restriction in your state. When I came on the job in 1986, in Ohio, I got radar training from the Ohio Highway Patrol at their academy. Hell, I got my basic academy there too. I had moving radar in my cruiser, and as soon as laser hit the market, we got those too. I find it disappointing that PA would restrict proven technology, whatever their reasons.
     
  11. silverado_mick

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    Work the municipal side long enough and rest assured...you will :tongueout:.
     
  12. 1936

    1936

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    Well. almost a year, so maybe I'm almost not a rookie?!

    This is my first post in the Cop Talk forum.

    Just wanted to say hi from another FNG.

    I can't believe the # of warrant arrests we get in a normal day as a result of traffic stops. Our town is on a major corridor for Bloods, Crips, and all other manner of gang members commuting between Camden and points East and North.
    I locked a gang banger up last week on a traffic stop on a warrant from Camden $5000 cash bail. The dudes mama was at the jail with the cash when we got there.

    You think your legislature is bad?:whistling:
     
  13. ditchdoc24

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    Congratulations from another rookie. I've been on the road about 9 months now and I'm scheduled for LIDAR class in April. Speed detection is nice but I'm always amazed at the things you can get off a simple stop for an equipment violation.
     
  14. Hunca Munca

    Hunca Munca nonplussed

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    I often get the impression that Harrisburg thinks it still needs to run everything past King George and Lord North........
     
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    The most often used comment as to why "they" won't allow municipal officers to use RADAR is because they don't want the depts to use it as a revenue source.

    I see......I can go out and write 50 citations a day using a ROBIC, VASCAR or ENRADD....and not have a problem. But.......if we were to get RADAR.............it becomes an issue???
     
  16. Panzergrenadier1979

    Panzergrenadier1979 Keystone Cop

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    Yeah, this is what they told us in the academy. I never really bought this explanation.

    It's funny how we can use ANYTHING else!......Just not radar. :dunno: