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Go to the School Board and tell them about your discussion with your Son.
I would feel free to record any lecture in a classroom enviroment, where the tape goes from there is entirely based upon what was said. If an inapropriate discussion was lead by an adult Teacher I would have no issue taking it to the School Board.
You can take control of your kids education, just be a hardhead about it and dont back down.

Most folks are pretty liberal when they are young and conservative after they see how much of their money goes to paying for other peoples pleasures.
Relax, just get him a copy of Atlas Shrugged to read this sumnmer and make him cut some lawns for spare change.
 

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Even here in Small Town Montana we have mostly lefty teachers, some of them being very opinionated and preachy.

My boys get a pretty good education at home, and would just argue the points right back at the teachers. Usually, the teachers when challenged on these points have no answer.

My youngest is graduating this year so that nonsense is over for me.
 

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1) you are just now figuring this out? This is the nature of public school.

2) homeschool or a screened private school.
This^^^

Private school, home school, or no school.
 

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This is a good time for your son to learn how to deal with IIC (Idiots In Charge)

IIC can occur in the priavte sector, public sector and academy. A person who is planning on succeeding in life has to learn how to deal with them. Jay-Z said: "A wise man said don't argue with fools; cause people from a distance can't tell who is who". This little little nugget of wisdom is especially helpful when dealing with IIC.

Tell the teacher what she wants to hear. If she says America sucks say "heck ya it does" If she says communism rocks say "whatever you say comrad". Seriously, who gives a ****? Tell your son to smile and nob and keep his eyes on prize. At his age he can do anything he wants, but that teacher is going to die standing in front of a room full of kids (most of them either asleep or high) who think of her as somewhere between a benign prison warden and a partically non-fun babysitter.

In short: your son needs to learn to tell the IIC whatever the IIC wants to hear, all the while figuring out how he can leverage the IIC to improve his own standing in life. In this case, he can get the teacher to give him an A which boosts his GPA, etc.

There's no use arguing with this person. You can't "win" anything.
 

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Here's a simple suggestion: talk to the teacher and ask her what she's said and if she thinks it's appropriate.

The dumb stuff like hidden cameras and T-shirts designed to provoke will only cause further problems. It's your kid who'll bear the brunt of them, not you. Do the adult thing and have a calm discussion. Choose your words carefully because of you mention indoctrination you'll look silly. Different opinions do not equal indoctrination and propaganda.
No Sir, request a meeting with the principal and the teacher. Tell them in the meeting it is not the teachers job to spew her political opinion. If the teacher wants to cover both sides of an issue thats fine. Tell them straight up there better not be any retaliation or there is going to be big trouble.
 

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Well, if you send your kid to government schools, what do you really expect?
The only "government schools" I'm aware of are the service academies. I don't think a 14 year old is old enough for Annapolis or West Point, etc. HH
 

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I'm going to chime in with those who implore you to not make your son the signpost for your protest. Liberals are totally lacking in honor and his teacher will make your son's life impossible. Leave it alone for his sake.

It's just the way it is. Your boy needs to learn that there are liberals and cockaroaches all through life. It's not always wise to be confrontational.
 

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I am the father of a 14 year old as well. Mine gets a healthy dose of God, Guns, Family, Duty, Responsibilty, and so on. When she was in the second grade we had trouble with a teacher who would not let my daughter be involved with "show 'n tell" because her item was "Christian in nature". The toy was a puzzle box that had animals from the Arc on it, and you had to line up the animals to complete the puzzle. My Mother had given the puzzle box to my daughter. The liberal teacher thought that it was a violation of "church and state". So, being the Constitutionalist that I am, I let the teacher have both barrels one day after school, asking her to provide me with the section in the Constitution where I might find this issue of "Church and State". I was ready with quotes from the founding fathers... I made this second grade teacher look foolish.

In the end we had to pull my daughter out of that school and home school her. Not because of the religion angle. My daughter fell ill and needed to be hospitalized. I wanted to barrow text books from the school to use to teach my daughter while she was in the hospital. The teacher and school princple told me I couldn't have the text books. So I asked what the text books were so I could buy my own copys from some place like Amazon on line. The teacher tried to tell me the text books were not availible on line. By this time I as so fed up, we pulled her out of public schools.

When she got old enough for Jr High School she wanted to go back to be with kids her own age. She is doing really well. She gets great grades in all her subjects. However, she has teachers now that do the same thing that the OP was typing about. The difference is she stands her ground. My daughter argues with the teachers when they bad mouth conservatives. My daughter understands socialism and free market capitalism, and some of the other conservative talking points. She listens to Rush, and Conservative Talk Radio. She stands up to her teachers when they are teaching "opinion" and not fact. As a resault I get called into school almost every month about her being "disruptive". So I find out what the teacher was trying to teach and if my daughter has a ligitimate arguement, then I back her up. For instance, this last school year, just a few months ago, her history teacher tried to teach the class that homosexuality was "ok" because George Washington had a gay Captain in his Army and when the other leaders of the Army ousted this gay Captain, George Washington personally went to bat for him, and got him re-instated as a Captain. My daughter wanted to know why it mattered in history to teach the class about this captain. She wanted to know what battle was won or lost that made this captain so special. She wanted proof that this captain was ousted from being gay. The teacher got mad and I was called. This crap is in the text books now. The problem for me is most of this stuff doesn't have any proof. There arn't any sitations so some one can check the truth of the leason being taught. I go in there once or twice a month and I get loud and agressive, having a blast exposing the liberal lies. Most of the time it is the teacher adding stuff that isn't true or putter their own liberal spin on the leasons being taught.

I personally think it is good for the kids to stand their ground when it comes to a just cause. And even better when their parents back them up. I don't see enough of that these days. I told my daughters to never pick on anyone and to never start fights, but I told them to beat the hell out of anyone who attacks them. My oldest daughter is 21, now. When she was in High School she was in a fight where another girl hit her in the lunch room and my daughter fought back. When the school called me in, I backed her up. I told the priciple that I had told my daughter to defend herself at all costs. I explained to the priciple that if I'm on my luch break and someone attacks me, I'll draw my Constitutionally Protected, Legally Carried, CCW and it will end badly for the badguy. I explained that this is what I teach my children, to defend themselves. I went on to explain that my daughter should be commended for showing restaint, because the other girl was not mamed, disfigured, or dead.

At any rate, my point is; we have to stand up against the liberal push in this country.



 

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Homeschool.'08.
 

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Ah, yes, I know this too well... :steamed:

The Lefty-******* Teaching Establishment in Madison, WI, which is the seat of the Liberal BS this state is now famous for, had my oldest son too confused to think straight about much of anything... :upeyes:

The teachers are practically untouchable, so either pull the kid out and pop for a private school, or teach him what you can, and bide your time till graduation--though it gets even worse in college! :frown:

One thing I've enjoyed hearing from him repeatedly is, "Everything you've told me has proven to be the truth..." ;)

--Ray

P.S. His mom and I are divorced, and she and her numb-nuts hubby are ********; my influence was limited while he grew up. :sigh:
 

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Liberal indoctrination in schools? Next thing you'll tell me water is wet.
 

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In Wisconsin, public school teachers routinely complain to the kids on class room time about their now defunct collective bargaining rights, and how horrible Governor Scott Walker(CR) is... :crying:

Recently, in the Whitewater School District, a janitor was fired for having a Stand by Scott Walker yard sign inside her personal vehicle... :shocked:

A few years back, a nearby elementary school—the one that my wife once attended—had a parent-teacher night, and all the kid's artwork that would normally be displayed (you know, the stuff most visiting parents enjoy looking at), had been removed in protest to the teachers not getting this or that concession they’d demanded... :shakehead:

Milwaukee County school teachers, who are presently compensated at an average $100,000.00 a year, recently sued the county because they had to buy their own Viagra! :burn:

The Governor Walker Recall Election is driven by these a-holes and their big-money union(s). Walker repaired our state budget in a few swift strokes, the key one of which was to reign in these teacher's absurd compensation and benefits packages by asking them to pay something towards their own retirements and health insurance! Even though Walker won the gubernatorial election by a comfy margin, the ******** and their union(s) have forced the state to spend millions of dollars on their bogus recall election, in which signatures by Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, and Adolph Hitler will be counted! :steamed:

These people are so cock-sure, they don't even pretend at honesty! And you're hard-pressed to find a judge here, honest enough to do a damned thing about it! This is what you get when you "sit out elections" because you didn't get your perfect candidate, or were just too lazy to vote! :fist:

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When I was in middle school I had a math teacher I didn't like. Math was my favorite subject and he was a horrible teacher. Every time I had a question he'd say "go look in the back of the textbook"(figures our cheap textbooks would have the answers in the back). I waited for him to make a mistake that I could use against him. One day two other students didn't do their homework, and he told them to write certain passages out of the bible like 100 times each and turn in their homework the next day. He told the class he had agreements with the parents of those two students that this would be their punishment, and it wouldn't apply to the rest of the class, but I saw my opportunity to save the taxpayers some money. :supergrin: I told one of the higher up school district officials about it and the next semester he was gone. :devildance:
 

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I like the idea of supplying your son with Reagan and Paul shirts for class. However, my initial thoughts after reading your post were "so what" and "don't get bent out of shape". There's a lot of other issues in life to really be concerned for, so this would be at the bottom of my list.

This matter could provide an opportunity for you, as a parent to educate your son about politics. Pretty much as the glass is half full approach, oppose to the glass being half empty. Isn't that what parenting is about?

My son attends an expensive high school in a very affluent community just west of Chicago. For four years my son listened to the pro-conservative and GOP propaganda. You know "Bush was great because he did this", "Reagan was great because he did that", blah, blah, blah... Before entering high school my son attended a libral elementary school in Chicago with a strong democratic teaching style. One day my son asked "if republicans are holding on to their religious values, why don't they want to help the poor?" Two different schools from two different communities equal to different views on life.

Well, I felt that my responsibility as a parent was to teach my son how to (1) research the facts and policies of such president and political party; and (2) consider how such policies will impact him, his community and our country. For example my son really enjoy going to the shooting range with me, and support the idea of owning his own handgun one day. But given the gang violence in Chicago, he's torn about "some sort of" gun control. Such as keeping the guns out of the hands of criminals, but give law biding citizens the right to carrying in Illinios. To some his view will be considered as an oxymoron, but to others it make sense.

I suggested that he frequently visit the "core values" that we're instilled into him, and he too should lean on his religious faith for guidance. More importantly, I encouraged him to continue these conversations with me, so I can monitor what is being fed to him. Plus... I taught him how to voice his opinion with dignity and self respect, and to accept the opinion of others with respect. Meaning if someone disagree with you "so f-ing what!". There's no need to demean or demonize someone, because their views are different that his. He has a choice to listen and/or engage in a conversation about the subject matter, or try to remove himself from such conversation.
 

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I just went through something similar to the OP and I expect it to continue for maybe 15 years. My youngster just learned at a church pre-school that God created everything. I couldn't drop the whole deal on her, because my wife will strangle me as I sleep if I explain that God, Santa, and Dora the Explorer are fictitious. But I explained that people living in different parts of the world believe in different gods. It seemed like a nice third option between doing battle and knuckling under.

I would recommend the same to you. Of course teachers emphasize things differently than a parent would. But if you give your child the "other side" of the situation, they will likely be open to learning that most questions and topics have more than one simple answer. Your child may end up different from you anyway, but I don't know anybody who has always agreed with everything his old man said.
 

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At dinner last night, our 14 year old son told us that his teacher has been giving the class anti-Republican speeches in her Indian Education class.....
Casino or Slurpee?

Take whatever actions you can against this 'teacher' and the personal drivel being spewed.
 

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If you think it is bad now, wait untl you get to the collegiate level.
 
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