My latest WWII "stuff"

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    Not too long ago I started a thread showing some of my dog tag collection, mainly from WWII. It seemed to get alot of positive feedback so I thought I would show some of my latest items for those interested. I was giddy at getting these.

    A little background: I have been collecting since I was 14. At the end of the day while this stuff is really cool, it is just "stuff" compared to the story and the sacrifice of the men who owned these. I return things to the veterans when I can, and I have a handful of times. Unfortunately we are losing them at a rapid pace and as is so often the case, the younger generations don't care to learn what grandpa did in the war, and end up selling them off. These are all absolutely honored and treasured items.

    First off, a first for me. A really neat early WWII front seam, stainless rim shell with an awesome Navy battleship gray paint job. Based on the age I would imagine it's been painted this way for a very long time, and probably sat atop many a sailor's head during it's time. The chinstraps are very sun bleached. The liner is WWII manufacture with the leather sweatband being rotted away but still intact for the most part. 20180915_093511.jpg
     
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    Next up is a set I really wanted to pick up because of my recent fascination with WWII bombers. This man served as a tail gunner on a B-24 Liberator in the Pacific Theater during WWII. I can't possibly imagine manning those guns at so many thousands of feet while being pursued by Japanese fighters. 20180915_101657.jpg received_701201790245136.jpeg
     

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    Last item is a somber one. Research is still coming along slowly, but I do know that he was drafted into the Army very early in the war, and died of wounds sustained in combat at some point in 1944 or 1945. I've been trying to track down his unit and circumstances of death and if any here are interested I can report back with my findings. The tag itself shows indications of having been buried for some time (not implying this tag had been with the body whatsoever, only that the tag itself seems to have spent time underground). received_1915373925433582.jpeg
     
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    I can only think the key on the chain was to his home and a good luck charm believing he would make it back to use it again. tom.
     
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    Cool. Keep the photos coming.
     
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    I have a German helmet that my grandfather brought back from the battlefield...

    cool collection you have..
     
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    I have no idea where you reside but here in northwest Illinois this weekend (tomorrow) is a big gathering of WWII Re enactment groups.
    I’ve been to a couple small-local re enactments.
    But this one is supposedly one of the largest nationally.

    https://www.gorockford.com/event/world-war-ii-days/15655/
     
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    Yes....very nice and very interesting...Thank you.
     
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    Thanks for the kind words, gents. I'll try and dig up a few more acquisitions for those interested. Here is one I purchased today but don't have in hand yet. I had to have it because it is a first in my collection, to a Chinese American. I thought his first name was abbreviated but his name is/was We Lee. He was drafted in 1943. To have been an Asian American in the service in WWII had to have been an experience. Screenshot_20180921-202853.jpg
     
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    Thanks! Unfortunately I'm up in the North East but it's a dream to attend one of these someday
     
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    Here's an oddball story. A few weeks back I did a quick beer run (walk) to the store a block away. On the way back there was a beauty supply store that had closed for the night and set out two boxes with decommissioned wig display mannequin heads. Naturally I grabbed two and walked home with them. The wife was speechless when I walked in the door until I explained that I wanted to spray paint them black to display my helmets. Haven't painted them yet but this will give you an idea. 20180902_155747.jpg
     
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    an idea that you're a weirdo...






    You really aren't hoing to paint them, are you?
     
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    2 questions, what is the notch on the left side of the dog tags and any way to differentiate between faked and real tags. Some in your pics just cant be faked, the patina, corrosion.
     
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    An often repeated myth is that the notch was used to jam up between the teeth of a deceased serviceman, but that's just not true. The actual purpose was that notch fit into the "addressograph" machine, which was used to stamp the tags. There was a big behemoth model machine and a smaller handheld one.

    As far as determining fakes, experience handling them is the best teacher, but some good indicators are misalignment of the stamping, forced aging (often done with a wire brush to simulate wear, but you can almost always see the fresh scrapes in the metal), and on the backside of the tag, the hole should have a nice, even, rolled edge. Current reproductions have a very uneven, split hole.
     
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    Nope, not that one. She's too pretty
     
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    Unfortunately I had to sell off this group due to financial issues, but I was very proud of the display I set up for it at the time. All but the cap belonged to an 8th Army Air Force armorer who served in England, France, and Germany. In England, he armed the P51 Mustang of a pilot who flew sorties on D-day. That pilot, an Israeli American, became mildly famous after the war when he the flew in combat for the Israeli military during the Israeli war of indendence. I believe he also authored a book on his experiences. 10622797_621493821304686_5490562249457214109_n.jpg

    As far as the display, I took the top off of a 6 foot floor lamp, and inserted it into a torso mannequin, and voila. I thought it looked great
     
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    Dang, was looking forward to a pic. What is it?
     
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    Click on the https link, the best I can do. My google fu is wanting at this point, for some reason my normal cell phone to Google Drive to the internet thing is not working.
     
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