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My Experience with Government-run Healthcare

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by LoadToadBoss, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. LoadToadBoss

    LoadToadBoss IYAAYWOT

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    So, I broke my left big toe today. Mrs. LTB and I were moving some boxes of metal shelving into our church's new food pantry. One of the boxes got away from me and all 109 lbs landed just forward of the second phalangeal joint. I iced it down for awhile and then decided to go to the local Quick Care clinic.

    I've had broken toes before. I know there's not much that can be done, but I wanted an X-ray to make sure there wasn't a crush injury that would need surgery to repair.

    I got there about 4pm and signed in and waited. The receptionist called my name and asked if I had a Tricare referral number. I said No. He says I can't be seen under Tricare Prime without a referral number. He gives me the phone number to call.

    After navigating through the various voice prompts, I finally reach a real person. The nice young man takes my info, verifies my eligibility and says a nurse will call me in 5-10 minutes.

    The nurse calls me after 3 minutes and does a telephone triage of my injury. I asked if I really needed to get a preauthorization to go to the Urgent Care clinic for a broken bone. She says Yes, I do. For life-threatening illnesses or injury, I could go straight to the ER. But for non-emergent care, including broken bones and lacerations, I would need to call the Tricare nurse first and get permission to go to the Ugent/Quick Care clinic. (The local base doesn't have an ER or UC clinic.)

    If I go to the ER for non-emergency treatment, I could be liable for the whole cost.

    Well, I got my authorization number and was seen by the doc. I have a small hairline fracture between the joint and the toe nail. Call me gimpy for a while, but I'll recover. I was just kind of stunned that I needed my government insurance's permission before seeking treatment for a broken bone.
     
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    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

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    2LiLDogs

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    Gotta love tricare politics! I have never had worse service than at barksdale and the local tricare group.
     
  4. kpuscg04

    kpuscg04 ACTA NON VERBA

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    I completely agree with you about the Urgent Care issue. My wife has tri-care and not being able to go to a Urgent Care has been a problem for us more than once. When I'm off Active Duty, I am going to make sure whatever healthcare plan I pick has that option.


    HOWEVER....

    Tri-care is not government run. Its a Humana health plan that is paid for by the government and only available to certain persons affiliated with the military. To say Tri-Care is government run is like saying the Blue-Cross/Blue-Shield plan many federal civilian employees have is government run. The problem with tri-care is not that its government run; the problem is Tri-Care is an HMO type program.
     
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    chief

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    yes, I definitely can't wait until we have 30-50 million poor people complaining about "free" health care that middle class and wealthy people are having to pay for.
     
  6. stengun

    stengun

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    Howdy LoadToad,

    Welcome to the world of private health care.


    Tri-care is a private ran insurance plan for retired military. It is not run by the gov't.

    Paul
     
  7. Surt

    Surt Jötunn-Kin

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    You might want to fact-check some of that info there, bud.
     
  8. kpuscg04

    kpuscg04 ACTA NON VERBA

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    Tri-Care is a private ran insurance plan... - Correct

    For retired military... - Half Correct

    It is not run by the gov't... Correct
     
  9. SheepleNoMore

    SheepleNoMore

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    A little cut and paste from .mil

    Tricare policies and health benefits are governed by public law.

    Tricare is managed for DOD by Tricare Management Activity.

    The DoD has partnered with regional
    contractors—Health Net Federal Services, Inc. (North);
    Humana Military Healthcare Services, Inc. (South); and
    TriWest Healthcare Alliance (West) —to help administer
    TRICARE in the three U.S. regions—North,
    South, and West.

    End cut & paste.

    Tricare is "governed", "managed", and "administered". Which of those three words can be associated with "run"?
     
  10. rahrah12

    rahrah12

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    Aren't we paying for it anyways...either through medicaid or them having to go to the ER for a cough or a sniffle...

    I thought Tricare was single payer (by Gov't)...no different then medicare/medicaid.
     
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    chief

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    maybe so, but I have a feeling that it's going to get even more expensive.
     
  12. SheepleNoMore

    SheepleNoMore

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    My simplified understanding of the 3 programs is:

    Tricare = employment benefit, and vested for retirees and other special categories of veterans

    Medicare = Health care for wage earners that become disabled or are social security recipients

    Medicaid = health care for non wage earners or non contributors to social security.

    The money may come out of the same pocket, but I think there is a vast difference in benefits and image for the programs.
     
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    geminicricket NRA Life member

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    At least the government sawbones didn't kill you dead like he did John Murtha.
     
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    johnd

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    We aint seen nutthin yet.
    Just wait until we get a system like the NHS in England.
    The NHS murdered both my parents by refusing medical treatment on the grounds that they were retired and therefore not contributing to society by not paying taxes.
    They were however "advised" that if they owned a house or any property, they ought to sell it and us the proceeeds for private medical treatment.

    I recently had to do a medical base line workup and when it came to the questions about living relatives I told the Doc that my parents were murdered. He then asked "how?" and I told him about the NHS.... he then said "Ah yes, thats going to happen here soon"
     
  15. Blitzer

    Blitzer Cool Cat

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    For a real joy try the Veteran's Services Health Care system. :rant: :fist: :burn:

    My kidneys took a hit after three years of taking an oral diabetes medication. And my doctor knew which prescription was the culprit and it still took him three freaking years to change my freaking diabetes medications!
     
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    Tricare, also known as "Try To Find Care?" I can't remember all the differences between Tricare and CHAMPUS, but it seems like CHAMPUS was a lot easier to work with.
     
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    The day will come when the middle class are totally denied health care to insure that immigrants and parasites are covered. "Our" government hates us.