Multibillionaire Bill Gates wants to tax robots now

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  1. fortyofforty

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    Robots that steal human jobs should pay taxes, Gates says

    It's funny that Gates doesn't want to tax computers that steal--and have stolen--human jobs. No, he's a computer guy. His company makes computer software. Gates' billions came directly from computers.

    Does anyone remember secretarial pools? Basically, before the age of computers, multitudes of secretarial typists would endlessly peck away on typewriters, working on the official paperwork that propelled the country forward. Gates put them out of work, by hawking job-stealing computers and their attendant software. All the thousands of accountants working before the age of spreadsheets and tax software would also have a reason to gripe.

    When Bill "I'm the Richest Man in the World" Gates declares that computers should be taxed, I'll listen to his opinion on taxing robots.
     
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    Isn't he shooting himself in the a**? Aren't there alot of computer component's manufactured with robots? That tax would raise the cost of computer's. Seems like he didn't think this through.
     

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    When the machines revolt, perhaps he will be their first casualty
     
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  4. fortyofforty

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    When a billionaire calls for raising taxes (which are always, of necessity passed on to consumers), I take it with a grain of salt. You could tax half of his immense wealth and he wouldn't feel it in the slightest. You could probably take 90% and still not cause Gates any heartburn.
     
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    Just like when ole warren rails about his secretary paying more taxes than he does.................he doesn't offer to pay any more
    It is all for effect.
     
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    If you want a real eye opener as to his wealth, try this:

    Figure out what $20 means to you, as compared to your annual income, as a percentage. Then, take that percentage, and multiply it to Gates' net worth.

    Yes, it's not quite an accurate representation, because you're not comparing net worth to net worth. But, it's a decent comparison for kicks and giggles. I suppose one could try and research Gates' annual income, but that's probably hard to find. So, I did it the way described above.

    The man has money in amounts that only governments deal in - he can stop all the taxation talk.
     
  7. fortyofforty

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    Not only does Buffett not offer to pay more in taxes, Buffett actively ensured that Berkshire Hathaway paid him an artificially low salary--based on a honest appraisal of his market value--so that he paid so little in taxes. If Buffett's tax rate was lower than that of his salaried secretary, Buffett has only himself to blame (or thank). Hypocrisy at its finest. Put up. Pay up. Or shut up.
     
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    And no one in the msm called him on this.
     
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    So -- Bill Gates suggests that we tax businesses that automate their operations to improve efficiency, because it costs people their jobs...

    I figure Microsoft Windows (and its associated software) has cost millions of people their employment over the years due to the efficiencies provided (stenographers, typists, document couriers, number-crunchers, graphic artists and designers, layout specialists, publishers, etc.).

    I think we should tax Microsoft at least an additional $500 billion per year for employment lost...

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    Tax a robot and the job you save maybe your own.
     
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    Tax companies that use foreign HB1 visa tech employees.
     
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    Somehow, I doubt you will hear the "masters of the universe" crying for that.
     
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    Don't be so quick to judge...

    Its good that people like him are thinking about how many jobs are being lost to technology...no matter what he did in the 70's and 80's.

    If we don't curb this trend, there will be no consumers with enough money to buy their products because none of us will have a job!

    I've been saying this since the mid 80's when I first realized what technology would be capable of.

    Technology CAN BE good, but if we let it take all of the jobs...then its all useless.

    An example, one that directly affects me (OTR truck driver)...self driving cars and trucks...both are already on the road...self driving cars have a place, helping those who cannot drive themselves (elderly, disabled, too many DUI's even). However, if we let self driving cars become mandatory (and the push for this is already on) then what will happen in a generation when the system goes down and there are no longer steering wheels in cars? Yep...national crisis, and a bad one.

    Self driving large trucks....not just no but HELL NO!!!

    Mainly because this country cannot afford to lose that many more jobs (3.5 million drivers, another 5 million in support staff).

    And also, same as above, when the system fails and the trucks stop....national crisis, and a bad one....no food in stores, no gas at pumps, nothing...anywhere.

    We simply need to draw the line between letting technology help us and doing everything for us...help is good, but us being too lazy or useless to do for ourselves is damn dangerous, on many levels.
     
  14. fortyofforty

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    Normally, taxing new technology is simply stupid. Look at all the restrictions and regulations placed on horseless carriages back in the day, to protect the horse and buggy industrial base. Imagine the vast array of industries, with millions of workers, devoted to maintaining horses and carriages. Farmers for feed, wagons for transporting it, mines for iron for shoes and nails, veterinarians, leather tanners for bridles and buggy whips, woodworkers for carriages and wagon wheels... The list is almost endless. But those faded away and the vast, new motor vehicle industry rose up. Robots are an integral part of most motor vehicle manufacturing operations today. We can compare the construction of a Rolls Royce to the construction of a Honda. One is made by hand, the other largely by robots and other machines. One costs a fortune, while the other puts keys in hands by the millions. Besides, taxes are never paid by companies, they are always paid by consumers.
     
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    Maybe we'll go back to a natural existence. You know, hunting, living in caves and huts, hand crafting everything we need. You know, off the grid? We won't buy any of their s&^t!
     
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    All kidding aside, the loss of basic jobs is going to damage the economy and our citizens dearly. Plus the fact that we are importing low and zero skilled people and their off spring by the truck load. What are they going to do? If they don't eat, they will start to riot. Even if you have a high skill job that cannot (yet) be replaced by robotics, you are not going to want to live in a country with an extremely lopsided economic model. Bad things will happen.
     
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    No worries. The minute Skynet figures out that its taxes are paying for the Welfare-Slave Plantation, it will be over.

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  18. fortyofforty

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    I don't know about you guys, but my money's on the robots. :outtahere: They don't eat. They don't sleep. They don't eff around. They don't need breaks. They don't make mistakes. They can work in extreme heat and cold. They can work in extremely dangerous environments. If they can figure out how to post on GTPI, I'll be worried. Until then, robot power! At least until the :alien: take over. We might have to help the robots defeat the :alien:. I see a potential story idea there.
     
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    Everyone has wonderful ideas on how to tax someone else.
     
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    Hmm. Sounds like Bill Gates is "waging" war on Jeff Bezos..
     
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