A different spin on the ususal story this time, though. I am at counter, perusing the case, thinking I really need a .357, when the counter phone rings. Employee answers and listens a minute or so, and says "they both would be good hd pistols, buy whichever you like to shoot" Listens some more and then says, and I quote here " Sir, I wouldn't want to be shot with either one of them. What a stupid question.", then hangs up the phone. The guy is kind of crusty. Just when you think you have heard everything.