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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by ShootingRooster, Aug 8, 2017.

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    ShootingRooster These are Great Times for Gun Owners!

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    I love the vests. They were using primed unloaded rounds. Why not head protection? Random projectiles only strike COM? Too funny.
     
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    I'm sure SigSauer is working overtime to solve this issue asap...
     
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    Sig new about this issue six months ago due to the Stamford CT officers lawsuit. They lied on friday when they said that there were no known issues in the US commercial market.... Now there are three independent videos showing it failing drop tests and I am sure more to come. I see big trouble for Sig ahead. The memes are already starting

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    I think the main problem is that they were dumb enough to release the gun without a center trigger safety. There's nothing to stop the energy of the fall from causing the trigger to depress. Obviously, the striker is already cocked.

    Stupid move on Sig's part, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    ShootingRooster These are Great Times for Gun Owners!

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    I've only dry fired a few 320 variants in a few gun shops, and I liked how it felt. But I also like a round in the chamber on a CC pistol. I'll be sticking to alternating my 19 and 43 for the foreseeable future.
     
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    They say a lighter trigger shoe fixes the problem. Sig already has the tabbed trigger safety developed, why didn't they test that?

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ig-sauer-p320-pistols-following-drop-testing/

    Maybe Glock should re-file their MHS protest!
     
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    We agree about that a center trigger safety device could be a logical solution, but I think that nobody can know at this moment if this proposed trigger may to solve the specific P320's problem completely. Time will tell.
     
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    the "voluntary upgrade" aka recall without using the word states that the army has it

    and all those drop tests were not following US safety guidelines hahahaha

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ffers-voluntary-trigger-upgrade-p320-pistols/
     
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    They'd better make it involuntary pronto. Who wants one of these noob wannabes, who buy the P320 because the army did, dropping it in the next stall over?
     
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    Yeah who knows for sure at this point.
     
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    I thought the 320 tabbed trigger has existed for years (since the gun came out actually). I don't know if any old person could/can buy one though.
     
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    No, it certainly doesn't. It only changes how high you have to drop it before it goes off. SMH..
     
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    The "Flapper" trigger should fix the problem. Glock identified it years ago. So did S&W, Walther, and Recently Ruger w/ it's SR9.
    What bothers me is why in the *ell did SIG field the 320 w/o the "Flapper" trigger. Everyone in the Firearms Engineering business has known(or should have!) about this problem for years! The 1st thing I wondered about when I bought a 320 was just that, no trigger slam safety. And on a pretty soft trigger, too. I full well thought "This is going to get SIG in trouble w/ AD's". And here we are, it's already happening.
    I like the 320, it has great engineering in it, and the pistols are a snap to work on and replace parts. They handle well, and are very reliable. SIG is going to have to get off their butts and get safety triggers to all the consumers that have a 320. Like now!
    BtW, it's an easy to do swap on the triggers. Should be drop out, and drop in.
     
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    Maybe Glock, Inc. should file a civil lawsuit against SIG America for using their patented/copyrighted bad design resolution techniques.

    How many "upgrades" did Glock do to its trigger and gun? Three? Four? Five?
     
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    What an absolute embarrassment to Sig and the US Army for choosing it.
     
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    You get what you pay for.
     
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