Model 19 Smith .357 value

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  1. .264 magnum

    .264 magnum CLM

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    I need ballpark values for these two pistols for insurance purposes.

    1. Mod - 19 (1957) 4 inch barrel, grooved top strap, P&R, no cracks, NIB it's mint (k 411 8 83)

    2. Mod - 19 (1957) 4 inch barrel, grooved top strap, P&R, no cracks, ~100 rounds through, some holster inspired blueing loss and very minor rust (the serial is very light I think it indicates (k 411 8 33)


    ETA - I know it does zip for value but my dad used the second gun as a back-up on some big time hunting trips in Europe, Canada, Ukraine and even Iran. He left us some killer pics of him with this gun.


    Thx.....
     
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    I bought a very clean 4" 19 for 375$ a year ago. I'd say take a look on Gunbroker and see what they sell for.
     

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    I don't know why but S&W 19's, well heck, any S&W Revolver, especially anything pinned/recessed has shot up in value recently around my area. $450-$550 is the norm. Some with mint, original wood have even been around $600. And yes, they are selling. I recently bought a 19-4 4" shooter+ grade for $450 from a co-worker.
     
  5. Bruce M

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    Supica's wonderful book suggests that serial numbers for K frames in 1957 range from K288989 - K317822 and from K386805 to K429894 in 1960. Around here before the death of the students, a K frame in great condition would often be marked at $500 or above. Pinned and recessed could add another $100 or more and the original box and accessories could add a little more. Not sure how many sold for that or were perhaps bargained down a bit. I would think a P&R NIB Model 19 ought to be insured for maybe even $1000 and I would guess that replacing one would be difficult, costly, and could take a year of searching.
     
  6. .264 magnum

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    I just spoke to my ins. guy, after talking to someone at his corporate HQ, they recommend ins. value on the NIB rig at $1,000 and the other at $650.


    Also my mom says dad bought the guns around Christmas time 1959.
     
  7. Bruce M

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    I guess I got lucky on that one. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.:supergrin:
    Hopefully the insurance appraisal will never be more than a theoretical discussion for you.

    I doubt a year or two either way would make a big deal. S&W used to offer a letter regarding the origin of the a gun; my sense it might be worth it for at least the NIB one. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...4_750001_750051_757825_-1_757814_757812_image
     
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  8. .264 magnum

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    Bruce,
    Try that luck thing somewhere else!
    I appreciate your thoughts greatly. It's one thing to get nebulous feedback from an ins. guy and totally another to get feedback from a fellow gun enthusiast.

    Thank you so much.
     
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    Sold a 19-3 "4 w/matching box for 600+ last year.

    May have been fired ONE cylinder. It was a collectible piece. I knew I'd never carry her as she was too nice.

    Not enough safe space, so she left the herd.
     
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    They are high. That is Bay Area pricing and then some on that. They are probbly 20-30% off IMHO. Then again they are probably looking a their value in 10-20 years and plan on recovering the insurance money should they have to pay out.

    I didn't even bother insuring my guns to their full value. Partly because half of them are in my locker at work. And partly because if they were all stolen there are some I wouldn't bother replacing or flat out can't replace without great difficulty.
     
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    If the first M19 is really NIB, with the box and papers, unfired, with no handling marks then it could be worth around $1k to the right collector. It would be a tough sell but there is a saying in the collector world, 'it's hard to over pay for a mint specimen'.

    The second pistol is probably worth $450-$550 depending on how long you want to hold out for top dollar.

    The value of the older S&W's has gone up in recent years, but not to the lever of Colt revolvers. There are also regional differences in price so an on line auction might get a bidding war that a local sale would not generate.