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Mitt Romney may have blown the election

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by BSA70, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. Goaltender66

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    And yet, today's Rasmussen has Obama at...47%. Moreover, it's been hovering at or near 47% for weeks now.

    Romney was specific because the data bears him out. In this economy, that Obama can pull down 47% of likely voters pretty much makes Romney's case that there is a cadre of people who will vote Obama no matter what...possibly because they are dependent on Government or believe that Government should provide all.
     
  2. Averageman

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    Look it up yourself, its public record.
    But more to your point..So Tithe doesn't count? Giving your Church money to care for the poor is a viable and logical dontation.
    Do you have a problem with that? Is it less noble, or should he be more like Joe Biden who dontated to the tune of a buck and a penny a day to charity last year?
    I'm old enought to remember when churches cared for their poor and the federal government wasn't in the business of redistributing wealth. The Churches did it so much better and with less waste and more results.
    It would seem to me that whom the charity comes from is less important than the good it does.

    But please look it up, you might be very surprised!
     

  3. Trew2Life

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    What's contructed out of thin air is Mitt Romneys compaign. It means nothing and stands for everything.
     
  4. frank4570

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    If you give people free stuff, then give them the ability to vote for more free stuff, they will.
     
  5. tsmo1066

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    Come now, you can do better than that. Romney is speaking of the campaign and VOTES, you are as aware of that as anyone else here. He never states or in any way implies that he doesn't care about the people in question, but plainly states that he can't convince them to VOTE for him. If he didn't care about them as people he wouldn't give MILLIONS to them out of his own, personal finances.

    So what percentage of Obama's private income is he giving to charities, anyway?

    BTW - The Mormon Church does not require that one pay 10% of one's income to private charities, as Romney does. They suggest that one pays ten percent to the Mormon Church. Romney's millions in donations to numerous private charities are not required in any way by his faith.
     
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  6. Goaltender66

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    For that matter, what percentage of Trew2Life's income is going to charity? I think it's relevant if he's going to be so dismissive of Romney's charity.
     
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  7. Averageman

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    And as also pointed out, Mitt is obligated to pay 10% of his income to the Mormon church. You know he's writing that off as charitable deductions.
    So giving a money to a church to be distributed to the poor is wrong?
    BTW he paid his tax and gave 30% of his income away as charity. Hmmmm thats a lot more than tithe's 10% isn't it?

    So where did the rest go?
    Aint it amazing what a good Man can do when he makes a lot of money and the Government doesn't have it's fingers in the till !
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...8.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
     
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  8. Trew2Life

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    Nothing is wrong with tithes. Churches do great community services. But those charitable donations as tax deductions don't impress me. That's your 'sin tax'.
     
  9. tsmo1066

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    Romney's charitable donations were NOT merely tithes to the Mormon Church. He currently supports over a dozen different private charities as per his released tax statements and of the 4 million he donated to charities, only about 1 million was to the LDS. He also reportedly donated an additional 1.6 million or so to the LDS that he never even claimed a deduction for.
     
  10. Averageman

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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...8.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
    Read up on it a bit, it's not tithe of 10% and he didnt claim the entire 4 million on his taxes.
    There is nothing wrong with good Men doing good things with their money, much could be said for cutting out the Government middle man and giving it to the charities you choose to directly.
    He gave 30%, now when I went to Sunday School Tithe was 10%, where did the other 20% go?
    And perhaps instead of begrudging him his money, his charity and his opinion you should be thankful Men like him exist to help those who cant help themselves.
     
  11. Averageman

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    Over a dozen different private charities....
     
  12. Trew2Life

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    I could not care less about Mitt Romney's charitable donations. I did not inject that into this thread. I no more believe Mitt Romney's 2 tax returns than the Right believes in Obama's birth certificate.
     
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    And you look about as ridiculous as the "Birther's" by denying reality in such a manner.

    Just saying...
     
  14. Averageman

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    So when set straight about Romeny and his charity work and his tax payments...
    You could care less, I'm glad he cares more and gives more. He's a good Man.
    But play the race card with than the Right believes in Obama's birth certificate.
    Who would have thought a democrat would stoop so low?




    Brought to you by the Democratic Party inventor of Jim Crow Laws.
     
  16. Trew2Life

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    You guys are deluding yourself if you believe that every charity that every millionaire donates to comes out of the kindness of his heart. Charitable donations are used by the wealthy as another means of lowering their tax liability. These 'private organizations' are in the form of fraternal societies. They're donating to their favorite club houses. Let's not be so naive to think it's all going to the March of Dimes.
     
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    Not to change the subject ...

    I'm glad to see someone step up and call the birther issue a 'race card'. All this time they've been trying to pass it off as 'nationalism',
     
  18. Averageman

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    Read the article from the Post.
    If he would have paid the Taxes on the 50 million he would have paid 35 cents on the dollar.
    As it is he gave away 50 million, had he kept it and paid taxes on it he would have been 30 million or so ahead.
    But that darn Mitt gave it away to charity,....
    Makes you kinda hate him even more don't it?
     
  19. Averageman

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    No clearly, YOU played the race card.
    By the way the Obama's gave 65K to Rev Wright, you remember the "God D*mn America" guy?
    Then when it became politically uncomfortable they dropped him like a hot potatoe.
     
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    Man, I bet you are a blast at dinner parties!