Minor IDPA mods for G17

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  1. gjk5

    gjk5 Pinche Gringo

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    I shoot a G17 in IDPA, looking at LoneWolf barrel (I have a crapload of lead I'd like to shoot), extended mag release and 3.5lb connector.

    Thoughts or input appreciated.
     
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    15 lb recoil spring on a polymer JP guide rod. Especially, if you are going to shoot heavier bullets at minor power factors.

    The 17 lb spring doesn't handle 147 gr bullets going at 875-900 fps very well.

    A better set of sights than stock is pretty much essential. Team Glock goes with Warren/Sevigny.
     
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    gjk5 Pinche Gringo

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    Have the night sights and like them, hate the stock Glock sights (this is the only Glock I own out of several dozen guns). I will mostly be shooting 115gr plated and 125gr lead (have a few K total of them).
     
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    I'll second the Warren/Sevigny sights and the Lone Wolf barrel, and add that you might want to consider a slightly overpowered trigger return spring. It seems to shorten the trigger pull/reset and smooth it out a little too. Wolff springs are the ones I use.
     
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    I shoot a 17.

    Factory 3.5 # conector
    Factory 21 mag release with a melt on the edges
    Factory extended slide release
    A little grip tape
    Heiny sights

    One of the clubs I shoot will inspect guns for mods every now an then to keep you honest.
     
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    ross2004 Mark it zero!

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    Here's what my G17 has, all IDPA legal:

    -Factory "-" connector, smoothed and polished
    -Warren/Sevigny sights (FO front)
    -Wolf competition spring kit: lighter safety plunger and firing pin springs, heavier trigger spring
    -DIY lightened firing pin
    -Jager captured polymer guide rod with 11 lbs. recoil spring
    -LoneWolf overtravel stop (what a waste of money)
    -All trigger components smoothed and polished
    -Glockmeister grip plug
    -Talon grips
    -Factory ext. mag and slide stop releases

    I come from the paintball world so I like to tinker/add parts.
     
  7. ecmills

    ecmills I shoot guns.

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    Good sights. Anything "night sight" is likely going to hold you back, assuming we're not talking a Heinie striaght-8 or a Warren set with tritium vials ... which are basically competition sights with some tritium tossed in as a bonus.

    Recoil spring. I run a 13lb ISMI spring on the factory guide rod. If you're loading your own lead, start researching minor power-factor loads and stick with 124gr or heavier, and you'll be astonished with the difference. I load a 130gr moly over 3.8gr of Solo1000... and it's a wicked combination.

    Whatever you want for the trigger. I'd recommend a minus connector and that's it. Stock guns run filthy better than ones with lightened parts/springs.
     
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    Why would night sights hold you back? I'm going to be trying to start competing after shooting for 15 years. I was just going to bring my stock G19 with Glock night sights. I'll be drawing from my Milt Sparks SS II IWB holster like I carry it off-duty.

    I'm a police officer and I wanted to use IDPA as additional training. I don't want to get used to competition sights and gadgets and then carry a different gun.

    Does this make me an oddball?

    I don't have a timer, but when I go to the range I get fairly fast follow up shots and keep nice tight COM hits. So I think that I might fair well at my first competition. Who knows?
     
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    What division do you shoot?

    IIRC, you are limited to what mods you canmake if you are shooting "production".
     
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    Nice list, and thank you from a hopeful guy who hasn't yet started.

    What would the list look like for Glock shooting competitions? How much of it could I use, or have to discard?
     
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    -Factory "-" connector, smoothed and polished
    -Warren/Sevigny sights (FO front)
    -Wolf competition spring kit: lighter safety plunger and firing pin springs, heavier trigger spring
    -DIY lightened firing pin
    -Jager captured polymer guide rod with 11 lbs. recoil spring
    -LoneWolf overtravel stop (what a waste of money)

    -All trigger components smoothed and polished
    -Glockmeister grip plug
    -Talon grips
    -Factory ext. mag and slide stop releases

    For GSSF "stock" class everything highlited in red is illegal. For higher classes they are allowed.
     
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    gjk5 Pinche Gringo

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    I prefer the 3 dot night sights over most, cannot stand straight -8's and do not like the factory Glock sight much. All of my carry guns (except the Jframe) have night sights as do many of my other guns.

    I do plan on sticking with 124's once I burn through the Berry's 115's.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    I shoot a bone stock G17. It got me to high "Master" using plain ole Montana Golds loaded to SAAMI max.

    I reckon I did change sights--Warren Tactical. That's it. 70,000 rounds later, the trigger is NICE and smoothe...LOL
     
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    Neat.

    With you doing that, you seem like the type of person to use a simple round.

    Which make and model of cartridge are you using, or are you reloading?

    I keep reading, and wanting to try out, the minor power-factor loads, but I take it that you've made it that far with regular ones - which sounds easy (if not a little more expensive than reloading for oneself).
     
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    The 147 gr. "Team Glock" spec 9mm from Atlanta Arms and Ammo is about the softest shooting 9mm I've shot that still makes minor PF. It made the gun feel a little slow even with the 14 lbs. recoil spring I used to have in, so I bought an 11 lbs. to try but haven't shot it yet.
     
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    melting the edges of the factory part is illegal for SSP in IDPA... bumps you up to ESP.
     
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    ecmills I shoot guns.

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    If you're going to have to carry a gun with chunky night sights, then shoot one in competition.

    But the short squat brick of a front post on a set of trijicon/mepro/etc type of sights does two things.

    That fat monster of a front blade obscures more of the target.
    There's no gap on either side of the front post. Most good competition sights have a front post 1/2 to 2/3 the width of the rear notch when presented to the target. That open air lets you actually see the target WITHIN the sight picture, instead of a wall of 3 squat little cinder blocks blocking the bottom half of everything.

    They leave a lot to be desired when it comes to shooting fast. But I'm not shooting some "competition only" whizbang set: My Glock 19 has Sevigny Competition sights on it, too. ;)
     
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    Thanks for the info. I'm used to shooting the sights with the thick front post. A buddy of mine has some competition sights on his 35. I don't know what brand. They do have a fiberoptic front post. Maybe I'll see if I can try his out to see if it'll make me shoot any faster.
     
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    Change the sights to Heinie Slant Pro's (Straight Eight Slant Pro's if this is a self defense pistol or will be used for low light stages) and change nothing else.