Minneapolis Riots

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  1. Butch_Coolidge

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    I feel for anyone that puts in the work. I feel for the others in the department. But I can’t feel anything for either of those morons. Granted, everybody has pushed things at times. But trading punches and insults is different than dispensing pain. When I saw him not even check on the guy, who at that point was not actively resisting? The guy was definitely in custody. It was literally over. Most of these kind of videos are a minute at best. This one for me was just cringe worthy. And sometimes I think I’m dead inside. And absolutely nothing against you. I get your points. I know how the legal game is played. I’m sure this ones gonna be around for a while.


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    Very informative post, thanks for taking the time, Doc.
     
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    So they have a conscious neck restraint and an unconscious neck restraint meant to render them unconscious. Dragoon is right in that it says active resistance and not acceptable for passive resistance.

    If he was actively resisting up until the video started then I can see it. I can also see the officer being distracted by the crowd then and not adequately checking on him. What was Floyd saying right before the video started? Was he saying he was going to beat them up or was he saying he needed help?

    I can still see the officer catching an involuntary manslaughter charge. I really don’t see the others catching anything.
     
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    I think this was a huge factor. They were worried about a mob instead of the arrestee.
     
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    Are you nutzs, he stayed on his neck out of arrogance, he was not going to let the crowd dictate to him what to do. 4 armed police officers against citizens armed with cell phone camera. Even if that was the case what part of I can't breathe did he not understand. I have the utmost respect for the police force, tough job, lots of risks coupled with a lot of bad apples spoiling the bunch.
     
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    He is not being "arrogant by staring at the crowd.

    His attention is focused on what he perceives to be the greatest threat, a hostile crowd.

    That fact is going to be used against him by the dept.and prosecutors. Because it is clear that he did not, at the time, consider Floyd to be the most immediate threat. So no justification for his action under dept. Policy.
     
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    If his biggest threat was the hostile crowd armed with cell phones, I would have prefered to be on my feet and have the ability to be moving at a moments notice if things went pear shaped, staying kneeling is not the preferred position to be in when an imminent threat is possible.
     
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    First when you are facing a hostile crowd you have no idea what everyone is armed with, that is why you tend to focus on the crowd, watching for an attack.

    Second, every cop knows that on every call and every incident there is a, "Man with a gun". HIM, and if he is overpowered that gun is going to be taken and he more than likely to be killed with it.

    Last, the reason he is not on is feet, and ready to run, is he has a job to do. Granted, he messed up doing it, very badly messed up.
    But cops are not employed to run away from danger, they get paid to run towards it.
     
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    bet he doesn’t.

    also, I bet he has an intact hyoid bone.
     
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    I’m sure it will eventually come out.


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    This.

    He didn’t mean to kill Floyd, wasn’t trying to kill Floyd, but that’s what happened.

    The other officers are guilty of inaction, which might be terminal, but isn’t criminal. If it were, Scott Peterson would be in jail.
     
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    Agreed. The autopsy results will be published ASAP. Tox screen will probably be slower. This will go like Mike Brown...we will get to hear every single little detail of Floyd’s death, for better or worse.
     
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    You know this as a fact?
     
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    No, just my perspective. Bottom line he was wrong.
     
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    More the reason to be on his feet, I never implied running away from the situation simply the ability to move.
     
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    I googled it to see what charges there were and it was the same, repeated dumpster fire.

    An arrest. With no charges. It’s not on-view so there’s an affidavit filed SOMEWHERE. I’m curious to know what charges were filed.
     
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    Understood, but here is the problem, if you are supposed to be controlling a prone arrestee you can't do that while standing on your feet, moving or ready to move.

    The issue here is not his controlling a prone arrestee, it is how he did it. ( Knee on neck/ carotid artery)
     
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    If they had been honest they would have said,

    "we don't know yet, but we will think of something"

    Just saw, they went with third degree murder(manslaughter).
     
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