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Military chain of command question...

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by railfancwb, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. railfancwb

    railfancwb

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    General Ham has been relieved of his duties and is being replaced - gossip says for refusal to stand down as ordered in the Benghazi mess.

    Obama etc claim not to have know anything about Benghazi for hours if not days after it went down.

    So...who ordered the General to stand down, who ordered him relieved of his command, and who ordered him replaced? Obama? SecDef? Joint Chief? Hillary? Biden? Who?


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  2. Kablam

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    It sounds like maybe he just resigned...because the administration is full of lying putzes who finally got somebody killed (besides the soldiers in the wars)???
     

  3. Jay9928

    Jay9928 I laugh at liberals.

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    God damn you Obama. God damn you.
     
  4. G29Reload

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    I think General Ham needs to hold a press conference.
     
  5. Lockback

    Lockback Polymerlicious!

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    I would concur wholeheartedly.
     
  6. Cavalry Doc

    Cavalry Doc MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    I would really like to hear Gen. Ham's account, preferably around Thursday of this week.

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  7. Gunnut 45/454

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    Well he will not put his retirement in jeparody until it's official. Usually takes 30-60 days before its official so don't hold your breath. But I'm sure if he has any integrity we'll hear alot from him. Unless he meets an untimely death before hand? Watch your back General!:whistling: As we all know this Admin isn't above putting those that threaten it 6 ft under!:steamed:
     
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    Cavalry Doc MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    Retirement in jeopardy? BS. Unless convicted of high crimes, he'll get his retirement.

    I doubt that is his biggest concern. Not for a warrior anyway.

    I would love to hear what he has to say about it.
     
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    Thursday would be great! But I wouldn't think would say anything until he is officially retired. But I so much want the truth to come out. Even if all my suspicions turned out to be unfounded, I still want to know the truth. Gen. Ham could really shed some light on the subject.
     
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    I'd wait for a few more facts before jumping on this one. From what I'm reading he is simply saying he just never received any order to help. Quite different from he was told NOT to go in.
     
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  11. railfancwb

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    So, if this is true, why is he gone? Failure to follow a non-order?




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  12. Gunnut 45/454

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    If he in fact resigned his commision, he could have done it for personal reasons, he lost faith in those above him. Refused to take the fall for others incompotence. Could be facing charges? Tons of reasons. As the theater commander he was/is responsible for military personel. So if the order was given to assist in the defense of the consilate and he didn't do it hes resonsible. But if Cowboy is correct and the order was never given by CinC( Obamamoa) it's not his fualt. The Admin has the audio tapes from the SEALS they need to release them so we can find out who exactly said to standdown. I'll bet money it came directly form the NSC ie White House.:steamed:
     
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    To some extent, a general always has to face politics and, in the end, our military is subject to civilian command. But this officer deserves to have his story heard.
     
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    Very few responsible people would just sit there and let your own die without doing anything. It fits that he tried. Basic human decency would cause one to try, and you can't rise to the rank of general through years of command by letting men die alone.

    The story, although a rumor, is so believable. A rumor will become truth, given time.
     
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    is this a start of a military coup? if so, there is hope for this country.
     
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    BHO deserves more than electoral defeat.
     
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    Yep the General could have ordered a security team into the fight without Obamamoa's permission and then been Courts Marshaled soon afterwards. I wouldn't have held it against him if he had. But I garentee he would have been Courts Marshaled. Can't have rouge Generals going to battle without the Coward's permission now can we!:whistling:
     
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    He woulda skated,defending American lives is our job.'08.
     
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