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Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by plp, Jan 15, 2017.
You take over Mexico and it's citizens become our citizens. Big no-no.
We have our own problems. We dumped over 2 trillion in the Middle East conflict. We could have used that money to fix our own country.
America must stop trying to police the world. Think about the violence in Chicago, the insane prison population, horrible conditions of roads and bridges etc. So many without jobs and we are talking about other countries. I only want another war if we are invaded. Other than that, stay at home and truly focus on making America great.
The punishment for anyone illegally crossing the border into the U.S. should be 1 week of constant listening to the speeches of obama, pelosi, hillary and reid.
NO ONE would try to come across after experiencing that.
Like or not, Mexico IS our problem. We created the present dynamic, and I will admit my part and culpability back to the days when I was a stoned college freshman supporting the drug trade while buying my quarter of Mexican ditch weed.
I feel a certain amount of guilt today, for the feckless decisions of my youth, as my actions and those of a few million other clueless kids provided the fundament that has brought us to our present situation.
We broke it, we need to step up and fix it.
There are no quick fixes. Let's suppose for a minute, we do in fact manage to build a wall, manage to stop the drug trade, and manage to send every single illegal alien home.
Do a little research, and look up 'domino theory'. Only, replace socialism with fundamentalism, whether Islam or cartel driven dictatorship.
I can't tell if you are trolling me or not.
You bought some ditch weed and feel you are responsible for Mexico's problems? I don't care how many bought drugs from them. Mexico is responsible for Mexico.
Build the wall and run heat seeking drones up and down the border. I would also put members of the national guard to assist Border Patrol. I am done with the USA trying to figure out the problems for others when we have our own to solve.
mexicans don't have the balls nor brains to make mexico anything but the crap hole that it is today.
When I was growing up, Mexico was a nice place to visit if you stayed away from the border towns and played by the rules.
There is some fantastic trout fishing in Mexico.
The Mexican government isn't going to do anything to completely wipe out the cartels. The reality is, they need the money. If it wasn't for drug money flowing into not just Mexico but Columbia too there would be tens of thousands of people starving to death. Cartels spend that money and support local economies.
What America is doing is fighting a war but, not really fighting a war. You can rest assured every politician in D.C. understands the economic issues in Mexico. They also understand if you legalize it, and shut down the cartels, people starve.
All the Best,
Is that a euphemism for something?
the treasure of the sierra madre is as good as it ever was in mexico, and it has been down hill ever since.
The last thing we need is another bloody failed excercize in nation building- especially so close to home.
mexico has the potential to be a 1st world nation. they of course have fabulous vacation spots, but they also have oil reserves. if they would not go all communist Venezuela and actually put that oil to work for the country everyone in Kansas city would be trying to sneak over there.
I always get a good laugh when some neo-con cuckserative says that Mexicans are natural conservatives....without understanding that all the political parties there are Marxist.
I would just send Romney back to his childhood place, and be done with it.
We've got higher priority things here.
It should NOT be the responsibility of the U.S. (taxpayers) to take care of Mexico. That's the problem our politicians have. They want to be do-gooders...WITH OUR MONEY! Mexico has a drug problem that they allowed to occur. Their government is a big part of that problem. It should be up to them to stop it. If shutting down criminal activity causes their people to starve (it won't), so be it. There are a number of other countries that are worse off than Mexico. We can't help everyone.
Read your history.
The US did take over countries in Latin America and ran them with occupation troops and then withdrew.
The OP proposition is that military might can trump (no pun intended) a culture. Doesn't happen too often.
Ok. You do a military takeover. Then your people/troops start taking bribes like other human beings.
I have a better idea, I believe. Found a new Latin American Peace Corp. Attract self described American community organizers who hate capitalism and American democratic institutions. Pay them well. Send them down to Mexico to organize the people against cartels and the dirty local governments. Much cheaper than sending down the military. Gets rid of more than one problem as well.
I want us to stop sending troops to police the crapholes of the world.
If we want to force Mexico to pay for building the wall, and/or fix their own social and economic issues all we have to do is go after remittances. About 25 billion a year is wired from illegal immigrants to Mexico. Almost 50 billion a year is wired home to all of Central America. We can tax those remittances (preferable) or outright block them. Taxing would help pay for the wall and the cost of supporting illegal immigrants through anchor babies, hospital ER costs, and prison costs. Blocking them would cut about 25 billion from reaching Mexico's economy. I'm pretty sure that would force Mexico to help us police the border
Latin American Peace Corps vs Drug Cartels
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Yeah, like that will work.
What will work? Remember the scene from Clear and Present Danger where the cartel kingpin's truck has a laser put on it and a bomb is released from a F/A-18? Like it or not, liberals, that's how you deal with the cartels.