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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Atlas, Oct 30, 2013.
yeah me too , you have several people who think every tragedy is caused by anti -depressants
People like Lanza are born, not made. To blame society is simply passing the buck. HH
Why is it shocking there are crazy people in the world? Not everything needs an excuse.
Maybe because the founding fathers brought God into first. They were clear that the govt. They created was only sufficient for a moral and religious people.
But then you're so much smarter than them aren't you?
Until humans understand there are dangerously deficient humans and that life isn't special we will have these problems. Every one of these school and theater shooting idiots should have been dead a long time ago.
If you think the symptoms that cause a person to need to take psych meds are bad, the symptoms that one suffers when they stop taking the meds are much worse.
Even just depressed housewife on a SSRI, quit taking them and a whole new set of symptoms appears.
That said, I don't think that throwing pills at mental problems is a surefire approach to fix the problems, and for many people medication causes more problems than it cures.
I am pretty sure that lanza and every other mass murderer firmly believed that life isn't special. For how that belief works out on a national level one needs only to study Germany under the Nazi's.
Eliminating problem people was their specialty.
Nice try. The Nazi's eliminated lots of people who weren't mentally deficient or deranged.
This discussion should be about people who can't function without being loaded with drugs. If they don't take them they are very dangerous to all those around them.
Which did Nazi Germany start killing first?
The answer of course is the physically and mentally deficient. That is how it starts and history tells us where it progresses to.
Your belief that because there exists the potential for some of a particular group to be dangerous it is ok to deprive all them of even basic human rights can just as easily progress to, since some gun owners have proven to be dangerous maybe it would be best to eliminate them. We can just classify them as dangerous mental defectives.
It's easy enough to find plenty of posts just on this site and this forum by professed gun owners reflecting rampant paranoia bordering on the delusional and hostility and threats (or fantasies) of violence.
Awesome post - right on target.
I have no doubt our current society facilitates alot of the problems but I believe some are just born evil.
I agree - one clue is that some of these people have siblings who do not turn our nearly as bad.
I agree there are some among us who we ought to be able to admit should not be among us. We can debate whether to incarcerate them or sentence then to death but we ought to be able to agree they should never walk among us again.
The argument could be made that had the mentally deranged murderers been purges from Nazi Germany, what happened wouldnt have happened.
So, would we call Mengele insane? Did they eliminate him?
The problem was never that Lanza was 'on something' when he shot those kids. The problem is that Lanza had a long history of mental illness and obviously went off of his meds. A paranoid schizophrenic or severe manic depressive that suddenly goes off his/her meds can be every bit as dangerous and unstable as any drug-crazed addict under the influence.
Are we talking about society as a whole or just GlockTalk?
As already pointed out, Nazi Germany's programs to purify society started with the mental and physical handicapped. The phrase " life unworthy of live" (in German: "Lebensunwertes Leben") was a very real Nazi slogan. Adolf Hitler saw no place for the mentally and physically disabled in his vision of a "racially pure" Germany.
This was all began before the Nazi ever considered mass killing of Jews. Once the Nazi got comfortable with the idea of mass killings, the killing Jews and others was a natural next step.
You gotta know your history, son.
Does it really matter if he was taking meds or not? The guy was a nutcase either way and had no place in society. He should have been locked up at the least.
What about those who killed innocents for their God?
If the Founding Fathers meant America to be a theocracy, then why did they draft up and passed the First Amendment?
But this doesn't fit my monological belief system. Now I have to make up another conspiracy theory to support the old one.