I started martial arts training in 1972 and got into the shooting scene about 1.5 years ago. I am often struck by the similarities. Has this struck anyone else? Both have many different styles and people take them up for many different reasons. At the pinnacle of either endeavor are some very dangerous individuals. At the novice level there are a multitude of benefits even for the less then dedicated. A real lot of very nice and helpful individuals inhabit both worlds. Serious training in either or both helps to build self confidence and a feeling of some safety in a hostile world. To get good requires dedication, self discipline and practice, practice, practice. The above are all pretty much positives, but there are also a lot of shared negatives. Arrogant, self proclaimed experts who gain status and prestige by denigrating others. Egotistical instructors with almost cult like followers. Dozens of magazines, books, videos etc. espousing the latest fad and encouraging the gullible to buy, buy, buy. Short cuts to success, at a price. Then there are also the debates. New vs. old. Traditional vs. eclectic. Sport vs. self defense. Training vs. instinct. Similar legal and ethical concerns. When to use force? How much force is excessive? When does self defense become agression? Is a first strike justified and when? I am sure there are dozens more. So chime in with your thoughts.