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Man with gun in Walmart arrested for refusing to show permit

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by TBO, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. badge315

    badge315

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    The one natural resource we seem to have an endless supply of is stupid people. :upeyes:
     

  2. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    If there were only some way to harness that resource at the national level.....just think of what we could do!


    Oh, that's right. :cool:
     
  3. JW1178

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    Did the LEO prove he was in fact a LEO or just walmart security?

    Still, once again, we have yet another activist standing his ground asking for trouble, and he got trouble.
     
  4. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    I think putting him in jail might have proven it.

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  5. Bruce M

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    I am guesing that somewhere between the walk outside away from Walmart, the ride however far it was, and then the walk into the Polk County Jail Mr. Alivonta had a clue or should have had a clue that he had successfully advanced from Walmart security to the local constabulary.
     
  6. Tongo

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    "Alivonta had a permit to purchase firearms and one to carry a gun but repeatedly refused to show them to Butler, who was working security in uniform at the store."

    I'd take it to mean he WAS wearing his LEO uniform and as such, it should have been fairly obvious to most individuals that he was in fact a LEO.
     
  7. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

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    the democrats have successfully harnessed the power of the stupid. does that count?
     
  8. IndyGunFreak

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    :rofl:

    Well done
     
  9. TK-421

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    It doesn't specify which uniform he was wearing. Was he wearing a Walmart Security Guard uniform, or a Police Officer uniform? My guess would be a Walmart Security Guard Uniform, because if I saw a guy wearing that uniform, and he didn't announce himself as an off duty cop, I'd tell him to buzz off when he asked to see my permit. But if the cop was wearing his police uniform, then the guy shouldn't be allowed to carry his gun for being so stupid. If a cop in uniform asked to see my permit, I'd show it to him, required by law or not, because I'd consider it polite, presuming I was required to have a permit to open carry.

    However, this is exactly the kind of reason why I prefer concealed carry. Because when done properly, the cop would have had 0 idea the guy was armed, and he wouldn't be in his current predicament.
     
  10. IndyGunFreak

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    By the way, dude was a Class A idiot.

    I'm sure some of the more radical gun forums are already talking about how the police violated his rights and have started a legal defense fund.
     
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    You need a permit to purchase firearms in Iowa??
     
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    My guess would be his duty uniform. Around here off-duty cops working private security always wear their duty uniforms.
     
  13. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    It's unheard of here for a sworn officer to put on a square badge to work security. There is absolutely zero upside for either the cop or the extra-duty employer. Let me emphasize that: Absolutely zero. There are a series of downsides for the cop, the employer and the department.

    It's just not done.
     
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    As we don't have security guards at our WalMart, I didn't realize the have their own...though I should have thought of that.
     
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    JohnBT NRA Benefactor

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    I didn't know Walmart issued security uniforms. I've never seen one here.

    I searched google images and didn't see any. :dunno:

    John
     
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    This is in Iowa, who just went for Obama. Figures.
     
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    Generally, from what I've seen, Walmart doesn't have "Walmart" branded security, they'll contract that out. Securitas is what I see a lot. I've seen a few security guards wandering around my walmart, but it's not an everyday occurrence.
     
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    JJohnson Call me Jeff

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    To purchase handguns only or you need a permit to carry. Long guns need no special permits.
     
  19. JJohnson

    JJohnson Call me Jeff

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    God knows that no other state has open carry idiots looking for attention.

    We also let gays from Alabama come up here and get married. Tell your friends.