Man shot in neck during training drill at shooting class

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  1. larry_minn

    larry_minn Silver Member Millennium Member

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    @15 yrs ago he was a poster here. IIRC his thing was throwing a Glock as far as he could, then pick it up, shoot it. (I think it was tossed loaded)
    He has had students cars shot. IIRC he has had students shoot when other students are down range (not behind solid cover)
    There might still be YouTube of him in the sandbox. Things did not go well.
    100 level classes you get everything, everyone. People who never touched a gun to me who has not taken a class in 5 yrs, never with this group. So they want you to take any 100 level course.

    Partway thru you get informed. "You can take any. 200 level course in any firearm you want".
    The 200 level everyone knows the basics, should be safe...
    Honestly if I lived within 3 hrs of Frontsight. I would be there so much they would think I lived there. At least a class a month, retake some...
     
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    larry_minn Silver Member Millennium Member

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    I have hated it when I am dragging. By 2nd day I'm in the pack. I love being the bad guy. IED's are nasty. (The instructor makes me take them apart to show they are not real). Junk in shop, duct tape, FRS radio. If not in a svhool, permission some snaps, pull string confetti things(they have mild explosive, sold in grocery stores)
     

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    PEC-Memphis Scottish Member

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    Doh ?
    They'd have to be "Russian Roulette Tactical Training"......

    .... oh, wait ......
     
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    sciolist On the Border

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    And they don't even know what 5.11 means, never mind anything to do with Robbins.
     
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    We don't often agree, but that's the truth right there.
     
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    I couldn't get half way thru it. He does not impress me with his profanity.
     
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    When he was talking about his resume he forgot to mention what the color of the boathouse in Hereford is.
     
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    What a D-bag.
     
  9. PennsWoods

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    There's a lot of tactical garbage out there giving a bad name to educated, experienced instructors who know what they're doing and how to teach a dangerous topic safely.
     
  10. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Problem is, their are multiple conflicting misleading and competing definitions of "vetted instructor".

    People always say: get good training. But see above paragraph.
     
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    Bozo alert! Just a clown-show! Forget the "tactical" training, I want the f-ing "strategic" training.
    :animlol::animlol::animlol:
     
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    I’ve never found it terribly hard to find quality instruction, with quality instructors.
     
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    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    Wonder how he’d fair with a grasshopper?
     
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    I’m probably more likely to be shot accidentally by someone in a “class” or at the range on a crowded Saturday than to ever need the skills I’d learn in said class in a real life SD scenario. So there’s that. I’m not a SWAT guy that’s going to get in multiple shootouts before I’m 40.

    Practicing some close range draw and shoot drills at touching distance is enough for me. That’s all I’d ever need a gun for anyway. It’s not hard to shoot someone from 5 feet away. Any further than that I’m turning tail and running away.

    I know it might be fun to play operator for a day every now and then but for the average low risk civilian it’s not necessary. You can learn everything you need to know by watching YouTube and putting those drills into play.
     
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    That’s the other part. I see guys like this all the time in public. Tac gear, vests, logos, cargo pockets etc. The guns are concealed but you know that the dude has at least 2 on him based on the way he’s dressed.

    I go to great lengths to dress completely unlike someone that has a concealed pistol. That way I have the element of complete surprise on my part. That goes a long way in a potential situation, and everyone underestimates the value of being “gray.” I can really make some heads spin on here by saying that I often carry without a holster (no Glocks for that, only guns with a manual safety or a long heavy trigger like a Sig DA/SA) and keep spare mags loose in my pockets.

    The horror!!
     
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    I am surprised that no one has mentioned the worst gun training ‘expert’ ever, VODA Inc./VODA consulting. In a class by himself, LOL!


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    None better.

    Pistol, rifle, shotgun.

    hack_1.jpg haught.jpg
     
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    You mean a decent instructor wouldn't put a cameraman next to the target on a hot range during a class?

    I still cringe at the thought of that video. I cringe further at how much of an idiot the cameraman was to actually do it when told to.
     
  19. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

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    Some guys are into all the "tactical" stuff. No harm in that if that's what they like. Tactical Timmy is entitled to his hobby.

    But to be honest, sometimes I wish I was wearing body armor on a trip to the local range. Some of the people I see there shouldn't be within 5 miles of a loaded firearm.

    And personally, I don't care what each man's job is in the stack, or how to deploy as a team from a vehicle, or whatever. My job doesn't require that and if it did, I would be training with the guys I was working with.

    Like they say, it's all in good fun until someone gets their feelings hurt, or in this case until someone gets a bullet in the neck.

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)
     
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    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

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    There was a professor in Canada who would run and throw himself against a window in a high rise as part of his lecture (I don't recall what he was demonstrating). One day after repeated impacts the screws holding the frame in place sheared off and the professor plunged 30 floors to his death.

    Same principle.

    If you do something stupid long enough eventually you will get a bad result.

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)