Man shot in neck during training drill at shooting class

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  1. IvanVic

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    A school in PA called Rockwell Tactical had a shooting accident (the accident was not at Yeager’s school). I used to follow this instructor on YouTube (Gary Marr) and he seemed like a nice guy, but I’m not surprised he borrowed curriculum from Tactical Response when he left to teach elsewhere. Apparently Rockwell Tactical tried to replicate Tactical Response’s force-on-force training but without the same extensive safety precautions (I’m aware of Tactical Response’s own flaws in that regard). Was that a duel challenge at the end?

    https://www.wfmz.com/news/poconos-c...gun-training-facility-police-say-1/1121433078
     
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  2. K. Foster

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    So you’re saying there’s someone out there less safe than Tactical Response?
     

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    NAZG26 Lost in transit

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    The entire tactical community is a bunch of ass hats and most of these classes are filled with beer belly having neck beards who are walking 5.11 billboards.
     
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    That's some funny Shi$....So true
     
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    Paul53 MAKE HATE WRONG AGAIN!

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    Well THAT sucks!
     
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    One reason I’ve never taken any classes. I can train by myself, thanks. I don’t need a bunch of New Yorkers waving loaded guns around me.
     
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    Only if you go to classes with the likes of Tactical Response or similar.

    Go to classes taught by vetted instructors and you don't see that kind of stuff happening, or those kind of people attending.
     
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    ChuteTheMall Wallbuilder and Weapon Bearer

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    FullClip Native Mainiac CLM

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    Watched the video....does he get a bonus for every f-bomb he drops? Nothing says "I'm a professional" like a whole lotta' f-bombs.

    Think I'll pass on his classes.
     
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  10. CAcop

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    What he said. The internet outs people on a regular basis.
     
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    I would respectfully disagree...

    I have been to MVT in West VA. 4 times, and found nothing but committed, focused, serious individuals, taught by nothing but guys who have done multiple combat tours, worked for private security overseas, or both.

    Two different times I have been the guy that runs the place has not allowed people to be there if they showed any lack of focus, commitment, or seriousness, or if they weren't proficient enough to run their gear without endangering others.

    I trained with a group of guys from 2013 until I moved from East Tennessee last year, and most of us were in our 40's and 50's, but every one of us was in good shape, worked well as a team, and got very good at edged weapons, hand to hand, and firearms self defense.

    The "tactical community" as far as I have seen is nothing like you describe.
     
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  12. IvanVic

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    That is entirely dependent upon where you train. It sounds like you haven’t had much exposure to the tactical community, because you’re generalizing all of it based on a slice of it. Even a cursory online search disproves your theory.

    Oh come on. An exceptionally small percentage of the population has the expertise to do any real training on their own. Plinking at the range or in your backyard isn’t training. But in any case, training alone will never result in the same preparedness as group training, which is why people train in groups for almost everything.

    Certain training requires groups. Force-on-force training is arguably the best way to train for a self defense scenario, after you’ve mastered the fundamentals. You can’t do force-on-force by yourself.
     
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    Actually you can.

    But you'll grow hair on your palms and go blind.
     
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    Just one thing Dude, do you have to use so many cuss words?
     
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    'Ol Grandad Director of civil unrest

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    Is that guy ok? I like James Yeager. Others do not. Whatever.
     
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    He is very serious. He also knows that profanity as an instructor makes you very cool and elevated in the eyes of your students.

    I wonder if his heroic exploits in Iraq made his lengthy resume.
     
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    We train differently. The best training I’ve had was from classes put on by companies whose sole focus is tactical training. I’ve been in classes where I was one of the better, and I’ve brought up the rear. Both perspectives teach. Being a bad guy in FoF training in SWAT school is a very eye opening experience. Not sure how much you can learn, by yourself, compared to that.
     
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    Rockwell has had some bad things going on recently...it is a shame as I have met Jared, the owner, at a few gun shows, talked with him and was going to take a class.....not now.
     
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    do "we" need to train?
    is there something coming?
    spit it out.
    what is the message of this thread?
    dont shoot with mall ninja fat walking dead dad fans or
    get in shape and make sure that the fat walking dead prepper fan doesnt shoot us?
    i see that Clint endorses James.
    i endorse Clint.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNqR_xHiG5ibzgm4xXmF-Sw
     
  20. quantico

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    Be careful who you train with. I have seen terrible and good. The cussing and hard talk is usually an indicator your in a bad place. The most serious people i have met and occasiinally trained with are rather calm and move slowly making sure your safe and getting the plan very slowly before any shots are fired. People should not be touching holstered firearms before getting to a shooting area.
     
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