After reading them, do you still hold that "anything anyone did to him after that was wrong?"
I was only able to squint through the first report. In it I was not able to find anything that justified the security guard or police approaching him.
After reading them, do you still hold that "anything anyone did to him after that was wrong?"
Interesting questions. Simply OC'ing in the park was not justification in GA for being asked to leave. I would urge GA residents to make sure you read the fine print on carrying in parks. For example, if you have a permit, you can carry in state parks; HOWEVER, there are exceptions - e.g., "except sites where prohibited by federal law."But while we are on the subject...what does it take to be charged with trespassing in a public park? Can a security guard decide you are not welcome, ask you to leave, and if you don't it's trespassing? (apparently the answer is yes, given what happened)
I hope his BS lawsuit costs him a bundle and gets him nothing. People like this are the worst enemies shooters and gun owners have - they can do more harm than any lefty anti-gunner. What makes a bigger impression, a hippie saying people with guns are nuts, or a real live example of a nut with a gun?FYI
This guy is a first class Nimrod.
My guys have run into him on more than one occasion he has been asked to leave businesses and uses the word "sheeple"
He's a grumpy hermit.
Why does the answer to this question matter?Why would one person need justification to approach another person?
Because Drain You brought it up...I was only able to squint through the first report. In it I was not able to find anything that justified the security guard or police approaching him.Why would one person need justification to approach another person?Why does the answer to this question matter?
How did you reach that conclusion, that he went hoping to be arrested?Sounds to me like this guy went to the park hoping to end his day with an arrest.
I don't know why he went to the park, but I agree with the bad press.Sounds to me like this guy went to the park hoping to end his day with an arrest.
"Making a statement" or "making money"?
Either way, guy's a ******. Thanks pal, love when it's the gun owners giving us bad press.
Drain You, when you say "justified," well, first, lets break it down into the security guard's actions and then the police officers' actions.I was only able to squint through the first report. In it I was not able to find anything that justified the security guard or police approaching him.
I gather that he's fairly active in the OC world, and works/worked at a gun shop. Have you had any dealings with him that might shed light on this episode?BTW: I live in Gwinnett County. (where this incident took place)
Looks like he was arrested for not leaving when he was told, by what appears to be an identified representative. Not having an obligation to answer questions seems to be irrelevant, even if that's was the whole story.I read the report and I think he has a case. It has nothing to do with OC or any gun laws in particular. The story is that he was in a public park and was asked to leave. Georgia Code - Crimes and Offenses - Title 16, Section 16-7-21 states
The complaint stated that he was being asked to leave for being "evasive" in his answers to the security guard. He is under no obligation to even talk to the security guard nor does he even need to talk to the police.(b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority:
(3) Remains upon the land or premises of another person or within the vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant to depart.
This guy is likely an *sshole but frankly its people like this who highlight what the limits of the law are. I think that in this case he was being harassed for being in *ss. This is not illegal in any state and I would like to see cases like this result in losses to the city. These losses would result in a change in behavior by the police.
A girl scout can "approach you" and ask you questions in public, just like anybody else. In this case, bizarre behavior and carrying a gun in a park, where there may also be an ordinance against carrying guns, seems ot be the issue that got their attention. However, no legal authority is required to ask him questions.I was only able to squint through the first report. In it I was not able to find anything that justified the security guard or police approaching him.
Right, but that appears to pertain to private property only. The park in question is city owned. I'm not sure how it works in GA, or how you could be forced to leave public property. It's kind of impossible...isn't it?Looks like he was arrested for not leaving when he was told, by what appears to be an identified representative. Not having an obligation to answer questions seems to be irrelevant, even if that's was the whole story.
you can be asked to leave public property especially parks for any number of reasons .Right, but that appears to pertain to private property only. The park in question is city owned. I'm not sure how it works in GA, or how you could be forced to leave public property. It's kind of impossible...isn't it?
I'm not seeing any actual laws being broken, just the guy being a pain in the butt and the authorities just throwing something general out there sort of like "disturbing the peace" or some such.
Either way, right or wrong, the guy should have just left and came back later. Starting a war with police on the street is never going to end well.
Not at all impossible, as the Occupy crowd has discovered.I'm not sure how it works in GA, or how you could be forced to leave public property. It's kind of impossible...isn't it?